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10-04-2019, 08:34 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
Dude, this post is full of B.S. There is no “practice” of denying the jumpseat at AS because many live in base. I’ve only known of 1 guy to ever deny jumpers on a regular basis and he’s retired now. The only other time I’ve seen a CA say no to someone sitting in the high chair in the last 14 years, (4+ at the company and 10 commuting out of SEA) is because he was about 6’5” and it was a transcon. In fact the majority of guys I fly with make the walk and or tell the agent both seats are open upon check in. You’re stirring the pot with some fairy dust on this one.
10-04-2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
Dude, this post is full of B.S. There is no “practice” of denying the jumpseat at AS because many live in base. I’ve only known of 1 guy to ever deny jumpers on a regular basis and he’s retired now. The only other time I’ve seen a CA say no to someone sitting in the high chair in the last 14 years, (4+ at the company and 10 commuting out of SEA) is because he was about 6’5” and it was a transcon. In fact the majority of guys I fly with make the walk and or tell the agent both seats are open upon check in. You’re stirring the pot with some fairy dust on this one.
And the story I wrote of jumpseating on own metal, with 1 UA guy ahead who listed, then I was told she’ll have to check with the CA if he’ll take 2 JSers. That was a true story that happened to me. This culture didn’t just happen overnight with gate agents. Something has happened to get them to the point of asking if we are okay with 2 JSers. And I don’t care if you are 6’5” , it’s BS to leave a commuter behind even if it’s a transcon.
10-04-2019, 05:10 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Really. Then why is it that every single time I go through SEA on a full flight, a gate agent asks if I’m okay taking 2 JSers? It’s happened to me enough times, that now I just tell them that 2 are okay.
And the story I wrote of jumpseating on own metal, with 1 UA guy ahead who listed, then I was told she’ll have to check with the CA if he’ll take 2 JSers. That was a true story that happened to me. This culture didn’t just happen overnight with gate agents. Something has happened to get them to the point of asking if we are okay with 2 JSers. And I don’t care if you are 6’5” , it’s BS to leave a commuter behind even if it’s a transcon.
And the story I wrote of jumpseating on own metal, with 1 UA guy ahead who listed, then I was told she’ll have to check with the CA if he’ll take 2 JSers. That was a true story that happened to me. This culture didn’t just happen overnight with gate agents. Something has happened to get them to the point of asking if we are okay with 2 JSers. And I don’t care if you are 6’5” , it’s BS to leave a commuter behind even if it’s a transcon.
10-05-2019, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by KnockKnock
So you’re saying the gate agent should just usurp the CA’s authority and put jumpseaters on without asking? They’re asking you because it’s the chain of command and the seat belongs to the CA not because he/she assumes you drive to work and don’t want to be uncomfortable, as you so fancifully pulled out of your ***. I (we) get asked at every station throughout the system....yes....even SFO, by....you guessed it, former VX gate agents. Why on earth would you say such dumb, inflammatory, nonsense that AS pilots systematically refuse jumpseats due to the fact they live in base? You got proof to back that trash up? I used to think you had half a brain but now understand why other VXers called you out on OUR forum.
10-05-2019, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by pugpilot
JesusRelax - your route structure is so expansive that it matters to like 14 commuters.
Well those 14 can rest assured they’re welcome to ride both jump-seats and won’t be denied on the basis of self comfort. Contrary to popular belief, AS has many commuters and we are all, (commuters/non-commuters), happy to extend the reciprocal benefits of using both jump-seats. Shy guy may be shocked to find out that many of us who live in base now have had previous lives as commuters. We know exactly how important it is to fill those seats. To perpetuate some half cocked theory that we won’t is just plain dumb.
10-05-2019, 02:45 PM
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"If I were a managing pilot..."
... I would provide diligent counsel to anyone who chose to have one less qualified human asset aboard one of my airplanes. Perhaps their could be some reasons to do so, but I sure can't think of any.
10-05-2019, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by THEKERNALKLINK
... I would provide diligent counsel to anyone who chose to have one less qualified human asset aboard one of my airplanes. Perhaps their could be some reasons to do so, but I sure can't think of any.
Also, leaving a peer behind for the sake of just a little more personal comfort is an incredibly douchebag move.
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