Delta brings you in for indoc and then sends you home. While at home you do your systems CBT’s before coming back. Not sure if they do a review when they go back to ATL or jump right into FTD’s/Sim’s. They’ve been hiring low time guys with little to no PIC for years…and are AQP.

If the curriculum is set up correctly, it can work. Ours is a bunch of BS thrown together by idiots who think they know better. AQP should fix most of that since they’ll be forced to follow a script.

 

The other airlines seem to be doing it with few issues. I’d say it’s more to do with our program.

 

There’s quite a bit at Delta that’s better than Southwest but training isn’t one of them. They are both terrible in their own ways.

And I’d say Southwest training issues lay with the logistics such as schedule and hotel, and too much “box ticking”. The content has significantly changed over time. For example, systems is no longer done by CBT, it is a group course with a 1:4 instructor to student ratio, taught by a line pilot.

 

Every airline prob has its own issues. We def need less box ticking, and the 6 on, 1 off needs to go.

 

Amen to that. In all honesty I actually found the training OK but perhaps due to this being my third type rating.

 

My 3rd also. My regional used Flight Safety for initial training for both aircraft so compared to SWA….it was really really good. Benefit of paying a company that specifically does type rating training vs doing it in house and expecting everyone to know the jet already because historically people showed up with the type already. When I did initial here we had weekends off to go home…no idea why they thought 6 on, 1 off was a great idea.

 

I finished uograde training last month. It’s my fifth 121 aircraft, but 7th type.

The sim portion of the training was pretty straightforward. The rest of it was stuff that could have been done digitally or cut in half. Some folks got a block of days off between ground and sim, some just got one (like me). Anyway, enjoying a week between sim and UOE so that’s nice.

 

Congrats on the upgrade!

 

Thank you! Looking to TTGA my ass off.

 

I should have been more clear in my response, as I agree 100% the schedule side of it sucked. I think in 8 weeks I got to see my family once for 1.5 days. That is unacceptable and the company should be ashamed of that. However, I thought the SIM training was good, the systems training was a waste of time as we learned everything we needed to pass the oral in private sessions with our classmates anyway. I really thought the computer room training was the biggest waste of time as you got to see everything once and then rushed to move on because they had boxes to fill.

Again, this not being my first time through one of these training events, I knew what I needed to study and what I could learn another day, so it was pretty low key for me. If this was my first 121 gig I think I would have had a much harder time with it, so best of luck to the 225 folks.