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10-23-2019, 06:54 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by at6d
What I don’t understand is why we need the program as there are a multitude of qualified pilots trying to land a damn interview. And by qualified I mean 7000+ hours in 121 (I don’t view the civilian guys competing against military folks, I view it as competing against other civilians).
I don’t get it either. I personally know several guys with years of 121 PIC experience who can’t get an interview, And if you look on other forums, every time the hiring window opens there’s guys on there who say this is their fifth or even 10th window they’ve tried for unsuccessfully.
I am sure there will be a shortage at some point, and I’m pretty sure the regionals and smaller cargo operators are feeling it now. The way I see it is that the majors have a very large supply of qualified regional guys to choose from. It’s still awfully competitive to get on at a Legacy or Southwest.
10-23-2019, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
I’m on the fence. For me, the transition to SWA was pretty seamless as I had done almost a decade in both 121 regional (on four types) and another decade in 91 corporate on two types.
It sounds like a good way to enter the corporate world. Maybe they like the customer service aspect for SWA? One thing corporate pilots do very well is network—and corporate is hurting for pilots as well.
To be honest, I think the 121 regional world is a better environmental proving ground.
I think it sounds fair on paper, but the proof is yet to be seen.
What I don’t understand is why we need the program as there are a multitude of qualified pilots trying to land a damn interview. And by qualified I mean 7000+ hours in 121 (I don’t view the civilian guys competing against military folks, I view it as competing against other civilians).
It sounds like a good way to enter the corporate world. Maybe they like the customer service aspect for SWA? One thing corporate pilots do very well is network—and corporate is hurting for pilots as well.
To be honest, I think the 121 regional world is a better environmental proving ground.
I think it sounds fair on paper, but the proof is yet to be seen.
What I don’t understand is why we need the program as there are a multitude of qualified pilots trying to land a damn interview. And by qualified I mean 7000+ hours in 121 (I don’t view the civilian guys competing against military folks, I view it as competing against other civilians).
I agree completely. We don’t need the program at all. It is a fun project for a HQ pilot to work on I guess and it basically costs the company nothing. It has marginal benefits for the company and almost no benefit to the cadet.
10-23-2019, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I agree completely. We don’t need the program at all. It is a fun project for a HQ pilot to work on I guess and it basically costs the company nothing. It has marginal benefits for the company and almost no benefit to the cadet.
11-18-2019, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ThatSeat
Thats internally what XO is saying. Who knows.
11-19-2019, 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
I could have sworn that SPA MEC had put out a blurb about XO Jet or another 135 getting JS privileges. That's been at least a few months ago though.
For there to be JS privileges, there has to be a reciprocal agreement. I don’t see XOs business model allowing that to happen.
We have plenty of cats and dogs, mainly tour operators or scheduled carriers like Boutique or Cape, but they all provide a reciprocal product that we can take advantage of.
The only JS that I have heard of is an incentive ride to 225 candidates. Not sure if this is designed to get them excited or scare them away.
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