Southwest vs Spirit/Frontier
#51
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#52
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Is the ability to work more days each month in order to “pad” the paycheck a SWA-specific “advantage”/“benefit”? At Spirit, F9, DL, UA, AA, Allegiant, etc are pilots able to work extra days if they want to?
Not that I consider needing to work more days per month to bring my income up to a peer at Delta, for example, a benefit but apparently, bewilderingly, some people do. It seems like one of the appeals of being an airline pilot has always been the general idea of working fewer days for a relatively high income instead of having to work more days to produce a higher income.
Not that I consider needing to work more days per month to bring my income up to a peer at Delta, for example, a benefit but apparently, bewilderingly, some people do. It seems like one of the appeals of being an airline pilot has always been the general idea of working fewer days for a relatively high income instead of having to work more days to produce a higher income.
At United you can pick up on days off on rsv but you don’t go over guarantee. AA from what I’ve been told can’t exceed a certain line value. Delta has green slips and rolling thunder. Different contracts, so most places have some way to augment pay if you choose to do so.
I wish I didn’t have to work more to make the same pay as the guy in the Widget 737. Yr 1-5 FO were sold out in the last cycle for whatever reason.
I can pick up 3 days of work and make what my wife would have brought in had she kept her job. Small price to pay for her to stay home with the kids since I no longer have to pay daycare costs, etc.
Longer I’m here the less I work since I’m making more. I only add 2 days a month now. 16 days off for me is plenty....and even with that I’m only away from my bed 8-10 nights a month.
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#54
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Swapa’s plan of killing MOT and allowing Elitt up to 48 hrs? out sounds better and better.
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Gotta be careful up there on those high horses, fellas. Wouldn’t want you to fall off and be down here with all the rest of us “kind”.
How dare you think for yourself, have an opinion, back it up with data, not be miserable, share any sort of different viewpoint?!?
Fly, I appreciate your honesty and your perspective in the midst of the usual suspects of Eeyores, Naysayers, Miserables, and DoomsDayers.
#56
Because some people point out where our contract falls short and that it is entirely possible with some education, a little gumption, and some backbone that our pilot group could improve the lots of ourselves, our families, and our profession does not mean that we cannot simultaneously recognize that we pilots, and for that matter most Americans, have it better than the vast majority of people who live on this planet.
After all, earning more than $118,000 per year (most pilots at SWA) puts a person in the top 10% of income earners in the US. Moreover, if a person earns more than $32,400 per year (likely > 99.99% of SWA pilots), they are in the top 1% of income earners globally. The jobs we have here at SWA (or nearly any airline) are truly something to be grateful for. Our jobs provide us with an income, and a lifestyle, that most people on Earth can only dream about.
Should being able to recognize all that we have to be grateful for stop us from advocating for better? Or must we fall exclusively into one of two camps: complaining, never-satisfied Eeyores or grateful, always-compliant Pollyannas?
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F Scott Fitzgerald said, “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function.”
Because some people point out where our contract falls short and that it is entirely possible with some education, a little gumption, and some backbone that our pilot group could improve the lots of ourselves, our families, and our profession does not mean that we cannot simultaneously recognize that we pilots, and for that matter most Americans, have it better than the vast majority of people who live on this planet.
After all, earning more than $118,000 per year (most pilots at SWA) puts a person in the top 10% of income earners in the US. Moreover, if a person earns more than $32,400 per year (likely > 99.99% of SWA pilots), they are in the top 1% of income earners globally. The jobs we have here at SWA (or nearly any airline) are truly something to be grateful for. Our jobs provide us with an income, and a lifestyle, that most people on Earth can only dream about.
Should being able to recognize all that we have to be grateful for stop us from advocating for better? Or must we fall exclusively into one of two camps: complaining, never-satisfied Eeyores or grateful, always-compliant Pollyannas?
Because some people point out where our contract falls short and that it is entirely possible with some education, a little gumption, and some backbone that our pilot group could improve the lots of ourselves, our families, and our profession does not mean that we cannot simultaneously recognize that we pilots, and for that matter most Americans, have it better than the vast majority of people who live on this planet.
After all, earning more than $118,000 per year (most pilots at SWA) puts a person in the top 10% of income earners in the US. Moreover, if a person earns more than $32,400 per year (likely > 99.99% of SWA pilots), they are in the top 1% of income earners globally. The jobs we have here at SWA (or nearly any airline) are truly something to be grateful for. Our jobs provide us with an income, and a lifestyle, that most people on Earth can only dream about.
Should being able to recognize all that we have to be grateful for stop us from advocating for better? Or must we fall exclusively into one of two camps: complaining, never-satisfied Eeyores or grateful, always-compliant Pollyannas?
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I don’t see how that’s making things better, but I don’t think I’m in the same camp as some here.
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