Extended Tine Off/Early Retirement Ofer
06-06-2020, 04:59 PM
#191
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Actually Bucky, you do get 3% in September if I remember correctly and any other pay raises if and when we sign the new contract.
Only with the ExTO. Not the early out.
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06-06-2020, 05:16 PM
#192
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 249
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Actually Bucky, you do get 3% in September if I remember correctly and any other pay raises if and when we sign the new contract.
it will be years before we have a new contract. It will go to mediation after about 1-1 1/2 years. Then after 2-4 years you will see a new contract.
06-06-2020, 05:19 PM
#193
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,750
Originally Posted by TriStar_drvr
I turned 60 yesterday. I filled out the VSP request form the day it was offered. Good luck to all of you. Oh, and please keep the company in business for at least five more years...
I haven’t filled it out yet because there’s no real urgency but my plan is the 5-year ExTO. I have no idea how senior it will go or how the VSP will shuffle the deck.
My personal budgeting allows for ExTO pay for five years but I will be seriously shocked if anyone who gets/takes it is actually out that long. But that’s in the calculus of every pilot who is interested. Five years is realistic for sure.
This is a gift of time, not money. Everyone needs to know how they value their time.
06-06-2020, 05:27 PM
#194
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,443
Originally Posted by Bucky19
So since the money part doesn’t matter why in the world aren’t you taking the VSP?
I wish I could. I am 46 with two kids in college and not quite to my retirement target yet. I would if I could. If the last couple of months have taught me anything it is that spending time with my family is much more rewarding than watching a flight attendant put together her 5 minute voltron robot bag ensemble while waiting to turn the lights out on the plane and go to the overnight.
10 more years? Maybe I would.
I don't mean to be insulting. You do you. I just know that if I had the means, I would be so outta here. This opportunity is once in a generation.
06-06-2020, 06:48 PM
#195
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Left
Posts: 1,188
Originally Posted by Burton78
Agree to disagree. I and as pretty much everyone I knew were a hard no on TA1 without setting foot on the SWAPA forums. Inflated egos are all that what thrive there.
38 percent voted for TA1 that is about 2 out of 5. I think some of the ones you know are lying to you on how they voted .
06-06-2020, 07:08 PM
#196
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: 737 CA
Posts: 508
Extended Tine Off/Early Retirement Ofer
Originally Posted by Mozam
38 percent voted for TA1 that is about 2 out of 5. I think some of the ones you know are lying to you on how they voted .
Perhaps.. I'm primarily speaking of my classmates that started here about 6 years ago while stuck on OAK reserve (Check out the NO demographics from that group if you can find it). Funny thing though, should TA1 have passed, my plan was to bail for DL or UA and I'd be sweating a lot harder about getting furloughed right about now. Airlines are a crazy business and I chose this particular one for a reason.
Don't get me wrong, there are some incredibly intelligent regulars on the SWAPA forums and I do value their opinions from time to time . It'd be just nice if we could allow outside thought without attack.
06-07-2020, 03:53 AM
#197
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Position: Left
Posts: 1,188
Originally Posted by Burton78
Perhaps.. I'm primarily speaking of my classmates that started here about 6 years ago while stuck on OAK reserve (Check out the NO demographics from that group if you can find it). Funny thing though, should TA1 have passed, my plan was to bail for DL or UA and I'd be sweating a lot harder about getting furloughed right about now. Airlines are a crazy business and I chose this particular one for a reason.
Don't get me wrong, there are some incredibly intelligent regulars on the SWAPA forums and I do value their opinions from time to time . It'd be just nice if we could allow outside thought without attack.
Don't get me wrong, there are some incredibly intelligent regulars on the SWAPA forums and I do value their opinions from time to time . It'd be just nice if we could allow outside thought without attack.
I am not a fan of the SWAPA forum .Seems same guys are giving each other reach around 24/7 on that forum . I will not even get into the moderators. The SWApA forum seems to be run by the company, that is sad for a union forum . My only point on the 38 percent was that we have almost 40 percent that will vote yes to anything given to them . The company only needs to sway 12 percent to get what they want.
06-07-2020, 11:33 AM
#199
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by at6d
No joke I’ve seen some serious pics. Flew with a CA that took out his iPad and showed me explicit pics of his wife and her “improvements.” All unsolicited of course.
Better than Miata pics, but no doubt much more maintenance and tournament level costs.
Better than Miata pics, but no doubt much more maintenance and tournament level costs.
06-07-2020, 11:37 AM
#200
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 208
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Just depends on the guy. My first month in PHX was interesting. Flew with Maverick, Mr. Lambo, and others. Had one guy explain his whole money management strategy to me and then went on to explain that I was not in the "wealth" management category yet. Yeah, I was making $52/tfp. You think, captain obvious?
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