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Old 11-13-2020, 05:57 AM
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I’ve done that on the NG when the Captain is cool enough to permit it, but didn’t we get like a dozen RBFs saying not to do it on the MAX? Something about it presenting as a start malfunction and causing an inadvertent shutdown?
if I recall, the problem was guys were changing the bleed configuration too early, before the red line disappeared.
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Old 11-13-2020, 06:30 AM
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Honey badger don’t care about the iso valve or air after starter cutout. Flipping on a pack before the red line vanishes is another matter, on the silent at least.
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Old 11-13-2020, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
I’ve done that on the NG when the Captain is cool enough to permit it, but didn’t we get like a dozen RBFs saying not to do it on the MAX? Something about it presenting as a start malfunction and causing an inadvertent shutdown?
Correct!
I was the recipient of a 3 hour delay due to the previous crew trying this and getting an auto-shutdown.
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:04 PM
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I believe rollback for bleed configuration is red tick going out, on both planes for continuity. No need to get fancy over a couple minutes and risk a potential hot start, unless you’re part of the “fly it like a -200 crowd” and the captain taxis at V1.
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ElCaribe View Post
Then you would love the 320neo.
The nice thing about the NEO is that you just move one switch and it starts automatically like a modern airplane (ones built since the 1980s). We can't handle that level of technology on the 737 so we make the FO do a bunch of busy work...
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Old 11-13-2020, 03:55 PM
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Yup. Just hit start and it starts the engine, reconfigures the bleeds, puts the generator online... no reason to throw a dozen switches.


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Old 11-13-2020, 06:24 PM
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I like the 737. It rings nostalgia. It’s got switches from a B-47!

Automation may seem nice but it’s the death of this career.
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Old 11-13-2020, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Proximity View Post
The nice thing about the NEO is that you just move one switch and it starts automatically like a modern airplane (ones built since the 1980s). We can't handle that level of technology on the 737 so we make the FO do a bunch of busy work...
.......well we do have that tech debt and stuff
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Old 11-14-2020, 04:23 AM
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I like the 737. It rings nostalgia. It’s got switches from a B-47!

Automation may seem nice but it’s the death of this career.

I agree. I like throwing switches. It’s fun.
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Old 11-14-2020, 05:05 AM
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I agree. I like throwing switches. It’s fun.

me too, I feel like Dr Nemo.😎
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