WARN letters issued to MX
11-18-2020 | 01:56 PM
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This
it's 14.7% of the mechanics.
While it completely sucks for these guys and their families that they have to deal with this stress right now (might i add, it's a week before thanksgiving), in the long term, this is an overall positive for labor as a whole at swa. Why? Because swa has taken hostage the one thing that has kept so many people here willing to accept less and less. That one thing is the idea of job security.
These warn notices are going out. They will be black-and-white evidence for years to come of the fact that swa is, in fact, willing to turn its back on its co-hearts despite all of their talk about "family" and "luv". And never forget, gk turned down an amount of government financing that would've covered a 10% cost reduction for all employees 15 times over because the conditions attached to the government loans were too "onerous": They prohibited stock dividends and buybacks.
And notice that the furloughs, which are unlikely to actually happen, won't occur until jan 25 (or 14 days thereafter). That's five days after the inauguration. Remember that they initially said they'd furlough as of jan 1. Clearly, the company expects to get a new payroll support package sometime between now and 19 days after the inauguration. In all likelihood, this is simply a scare tactic on the company's part. They're hoping to get the first domino to fall by using the warn letters as a hammer. The rest of the employee groups, in their estimation, will then be so terrified of losing their jobs that they all fall in line.
Don't fall for it. Any of it. And, in the long run, the warn letters are a good thing for labor at swa.
While it completely sucks for these guys and their families that they have to deal with this stress right now (might i add, it's a week before thanksgiving), in the long term, this is an overall positive for labor as a whole at swa. Why? Because swa has taken hostage the one thing that has kept so many people here willing to accept less and less. That one thing is the idea of job security.
These warn notices are going out. They will be black-and-white evidence for years to come of the fact that swa is, in fact, willing to turn its back on its co-hearts despite all of their talk about "family" and "luv". And never forget, gk turned down an amount of government financing that would've covered a 10% cost reduction for all employees 15 times over because the conditions attached to the government loans were too "onerous": They prohibited stock dividends and buybacks.
And notice that the furloughs, which are unlikely to actually happen, won't occur until jan 25 (or 14 days thereafter). That's five days after the inauguration. Remember that they initially said they'd furlough as of jan 1. Clearly, the company expects to get a new payroll support package sometime between now and 19 days after the inauguration. In all likelihood, this is simply a scare tactic on the company's part. They're hoping to get the first domino to fall by using the warn letters as a hammer. The rest of the employee groups, in their estimation, will then be so terrified of losing their jobs that they all fall in line.
Don't fall for it. Any of it. And, in the long run, the warn letters are a good thing for labor at swa.
^^^^ this ^^^^
11-18-2020 | 01:58 PM
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Any extension of the CARES act will be retroactive to October 1st. So even if it happens come January, it’ll push the date back to only March.
Nobody likes their cheese moved and nobody wants to see a furlough. All we can do is trust SWAPA, wait and see, and squirrel away some money for a long winter.
Nobody likes their cheese moved and nobody wants to see a furlough. All we can do is trust SWAPA, wait and see, and squirrel away some money for a long winter.
11-18-2020 | 01:59 PM
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LUVs AMFA covered mechanics are grossly over paid. I don't know how much job protection is in their contract. I do know that these MX can be replaced with contractors at half the rate. A singular fleet makes transitioning people from street to ramp a mere two week ordeal.
11-18-2020 | 02:00 PM
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LUVs AMFA covered mechanics are grossly over paid. I don't know how much job protection is in their contract. I do know that these MX can be replaced with contractors at half the rate. A singular fleet makes transitioning people from street to ramp a mere two week ordeal.
Go away.
11-18-2020 | 02:10 PM
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It's 14.7% of the mechanics.
While it completely sucks for these guys and their families that they have to deal with this stress right now (might I add, it's a week before Thanksgiving), in the long term, this is an overall positive for labor as a whole at SWA. Why? Because SWA has taken hostage the one thing that has kept so many people here willing to accept less and less. That one thing is the idea of job security.
These WARN notices are going out. They will be black-and-white evidence for years to come of the fact that SWA is, in fact, willing to turn its back on its co-hearts despite all of their talk about "family" and "luv". And never forget, GK turned down an amount of government financing that would've covered a 10% cost reduction for all employees 15 times over because the conditions attached to the government loans were too "onerous": they prohibited stock dividends and buybacks.
And notice that the furloughs, which are unlikely to actually happen, won't occur until Jan 25 (or 14 days thereafter). That's five days after the inauguration. Remember that they initially said they'd furlough as of Jan 1. Clearly, the company expects to get a new payroll support package sometime between now and 19 days after the inauguration. In all likelihood, this is simply a scare tactic on the company's part. They're hoping to get the first domino to fall by using the WARN letters as a hammer. The rest of the employee groups, in their estimation, will then be so terrified of losing their jobs that they all fall in line.
Don't fall for it. Any of it. And, in the long run, the WARN letters are a good thing for labor at SWA.
While it completely sucks for these guys and their families that they have to deal with this stress right now (might I add, it's a week before Thanksgiving), in the long term, this is an overall positive for labor as a whole at SWA. Why? Because SWA has taken hostage the one thing that has kept so many people here willing to accept less and less. That one thing is the idea of job security.
These WARN notices are going out. They will be black-and-white evidence for years to come of the fact that SWA is, in fact, willing to turn its back on its co-hearts despite all of their talk about "family" and "luv". And never forget, GK turned down an amount of government financing that would've covered a 10% cost reduction for all employees 15 times over because the conditions attached to the government loans were too "onerous": they prohibited stock dividends and buybacks.
And notice that the furloughs, which are unlikely to actually happen, won't occur until Jan 25 (or 14 days thereafter). That's five days after the inauguration. Remember that they initially said they'd furlough as of Jan 1. Clearly, the company expects to get a new payroll support package sometime between now and 19 days after the inauguration. In all likelihood, this is simply a scare tactic on the company's part. They're hoping to get the first domino to fall by using the WARN letters as a hammer. The rest of the employee groups, in their estimation, will then be so terrified of losing their jobs that they all fall in line.
Don't fall for it. Any of it. And, in the long run, the WARN letters are a good thing for labor at SWA.
I agree with everything in this, the only thing I would disagree is the timing. I don't think January 25th has anything to do with the inauguration. I think it's just a date derived from today's announcement plus 7 days for delivery in the mail, plus 60 required days for a WARN notice. That's pretty much what they came up with, in my opinion. The rest of the unionized work groups will be done negotiating "very soon" according to the announcement, hence the14 days therafter. I expect all groups will end up like the mechanics, with WARN notices in the mail. It's just my opinion though, the time will tell.
11-18-2020 | 02:16 PM
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LUVs AMFA covered mechanics are grossly over paid. I don't know how much job protection is in their contract. I do know that these MX can be replaced with contractors at half the rate. A singular fleet makes transitioning people from street to ramp a mere two week ordeal.
11-18-2020 | 02:16 PM
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11-18-2020 | 03:00 PM
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LUVs AMFA covered mechanics are grossly over paid. I don't know how much job protection is in their contract. I do know that these MX can be replaced with contractors at half the rate. A singular fleet makes transitioning people from street to ramp a mere two week ordeal.
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