15,000 by 2025
07-01-2021, 09:03 AM
#51
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 98
MAX was grounded March 2019.
You’re saying SWA was going to go from ~9500 pilots to 12k in 9 months??
and I said his/company statement was “12k by 2020.” Similar to this one, “15k by 2025.”
Covid was spring of 2020.
You’re saying SWA was going to go from ~9500 pilots to 12k in 9 months??
and I said his/company statement was “12k by 2020.” Similar to this one, “15k by 2025.”
Covid was spring of 2020.
Last edited by Reese; 07-01-2021 at 09:20 AM.
07-01-2021, 09:07 AM
#53
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Posts: 806
Originally Posted by Reese
I remember my brother saying when he got hired by SWA in spring of 2014 when there were ~7250 pilots, “the company says we’ll have 12k pilots by 2020.”
Your brother is in a good position, very good chance he will have the opportunity to upgrade in 2022.
07-01-2021, 11:05 AM
#54
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 172
If that figure were to apply to the end of 2025...plausible. S.America opportunities (MAX 7), Hawaii semi-domination. Filling back out previous routes with additional frequency.
I would bet that we have at least a few playbooks that could have us to that pilot figure by 2025.
Black swan/financial downturns not withstanding...that said, we tend to thrive in downturns as well. Heads we win...
I would bet that we have at least a few playbooks that could have us to that pilot figure by 2025.
Black swan/financial downturns not withstanding...that said, we tend to thrive in downturns as well. Heads we win...
07-01-2021, 11:07 AM
#55
At your mom's house
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: cpt 737
Posts: 2,695
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
The company having bought so many simulators, having expanded the training center by leaps and bounds over what it was when we got hired, seeking so many flight instructors, seeking many new CKA's, looking for many new FO mentors, hiring more people on to the interview team, moving up the number of MAX 7's it will take ASAP.... I don't know, they could use it all as a carrot to sign a crappy contract, but to me, it'd be a dumber threat than that of a furlough on April 1st was. Furloughs made no sense, using growth as a carrot in today's environment is just plain laughable.
This isn't Mesa or GoJet that require a crappy contract to get "competitive" against other regionals in order to get new jets from a mainline carrier and grow. We are that 1000 lbs gorilla that everyone pays attention to. I can see maybe short term mind games during negotiations, but I truly don't believe our negotiations will play any role in our expansion.
This isn't Mesa or GoJet that require a crappy contract to get "competitive" against other regionals in order to get new jets from a mainline carrier and grow. We are that 1000 lbs gorilla that everyone pays attention to. I can see maybe short term mind games during negotiations, but I truly don't believe our negotiations will play any role in our expansion.
I'm saying that this particular rumor is a little much and smells of contract negotiations.
If I'm wrong then itll be the happiest I've been being wrong.
my prediction is 500-800 new hires a yr and 300-500 upgrades for the next three yrs. After that who knows.
Oh yeah and a shiny new wide body or max 10sthe company wants us to fly for the same pay. I know what the contract says but that's what they'll need to give us those shiny new planes.
07-01-2021, 11:14 AM
#56
On Reserve
Joined APC: Nov 2015
Posts: 14
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
If you believe every rumor you hear from another pilot, then I have some Iraqi Dinar to sell you. The exchange rate to Bitcoin is breathtaking. 
Don't believe anything until the bid closes... you finish training... the airplane is sitting on the ramp... and you're strapped into the seat.
But just to be clear, the bet is if my seniority is able to hold the left seat in any domicile, no later than my 10th anniversary (early 2024) then I owe you BBQ and adult beverages at Hard 8 at your next recurrent.
If not, you buy me the same. (I also might gonna need an Uber home)
Did I get that right?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Don't believe anything until the bid closes... you finish training... the airplane is sitting on the ramp... and you're strapped into the seat.
But just to be clear, the bet is if my seniority is able to hold the left seat in any domicile, no later than my 10th anniversary (early 2024) then I owe you BBQ and adult beverages at Hard 8 at your next recurrent.
If not, you buy me the same. (I also might gonna need an Uber home)
Did I get that right?
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
07-01-2021, 11:41 AM
#57
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Wonder when they'll open the hiring window and begin interviews? (Not with pilots who already received CJOs, but new folks)
I know a few people chomping at the bit to apply.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I know a few people chomping at the bit to apply.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
07-01-2021, 11:49 AM
#58
At your mom's house
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: cpt 737
Posts: 2,695
Champing at the bit can sound funny to people who aren’t familiar with the idiom or the obsolete sense of champ, while most English speakers can infer the meaning of chomping at the bit.
good thing I posses English efficiency on my ATP or I'd wouldnt know what you meant.
good thing I posses English efficiency on my ATP or I'd wouldnt know what you meant.
07-01-2021, 11:51 AM
#59
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 270
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Wonder when they'll open the hiring window and begin interviews? (Not with pilots who already received CJOs, but new folks)
I know a few people chomping at the bit to apply.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I know a few people chomping at the bit to apply.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
https://swa.pilotcredentials.com/
Update From Pilot Hiring
Please stay tuned for exciting news!
Happy Independance Day to all of you.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
