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Old 03-06-2022 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
10 days off a month… where’s the throw up emoji?
Positive space commuting
$9117 a month to start
Company Seniority but not Pilot seniority. So if you get lucky enough to be hired after 3 years, you start at the bottom of the pilot seniority list.
401k matched dollar for dollar up to 9.3%, don’t know what % of profit share.
TWU is the union

Straight from a recruiter.

As said above, unless you cant get a medical or your only dream is to instruct in a simulator, there is no real incentives to taking this job if your younger and goal is to fly for a living.
So instructors are starting at higher pay then pilots? I know they are working more days but damn. Positive space something pilot commuters would like. In base should get 100% paid covered parking.
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Old 03-06-2022 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptKak
Lonestarcaptain, I really appreciate the information, definitely helps a lot for the new candidates. You think the schedule issue is still the same now especially with so much turnover.
they are still way short on instructors. Everyone is working as much as they want/can
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Old 04-11-2022 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
they are still way short on instructors. Everyone is working as much as they want/can
As a instructor do you also get to fly the 737 lines? any expectations on pay increase in future? It looks like an easy way to get into SW but not many liked that path.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by airgoose
As a instructor do you also get to fly the 737 lines? any expectations on pay increase in future? It looks like an easy way to get into SW but not many liked that path.
fly the lines as a pilot? No. Entirely different employee group, seniority list and union. To date, the company does not want to pay line pilots to instruct in the simulators.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 03:15 PM
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Have to mention the SWAPA lawsuit about how the company hired instructors and placed them on the seniority list thus creating a whole new category. We will see what happens.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Have to mention the SWAPA lawsuit about how the company hired instructors and placed them on the seniority list thus creating a whole new category. We will see what happens.
Neat idea if they negotiate and make it official. Pilot gets hired, instructs for three years, skips commuting to OAK and reserve and takes their seniority to the line. Great recruiting tool.
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Old 04-11-2022 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Neat idea if they negotiate and make it official. Pilot gets hired, instructs for three years, skips commuting to OAK and reserve and takes their seniority to the line. Great recruiting tool.
What's the spread on that one ?
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Old 04-11-2022 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
What's the spread on that one ?

Pretty unlikely. I was just daydreaming.
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Old 04-13-2022 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Neat idea if they negotiate and make it official. Pilot gets hired, instructs for three years, skips commuting to OAK and reserve and takes their seniority to the line. Great recruiting tool.
Instructors should be line pilots with a few years of experience on the line, like other airlines. I believe that the FCTI should be folded into SWAPA with some sort of fence (smarter people than me can figure this out) and all future FIs should be SWAPA pilots hired from the line.
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Old 04-13-2022 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Proximity
Instructors should be line pilots with a few years of experience on the line, like other airlines. I believe that the FCTI should be folded into SWAPA with some sort of fence (smarter people than me can figure this out) and all future FIs should be SWAPA pilots hired from the line.
I agree, though I don't have a problem with retired/medical'd people instructing as well, as long as they have 737 line flying time.
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