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Old 12-11-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
I’ve heard anecdotal stories in the past of FedEx calling applicants before offering an interview and confirming that they would be “interested” in HKG or CGN… seems like this would be a way better strategy if you’re really hurting for instructors. “Not saying we’re offering you an interview, just confirming that you’d be willing to do a three year instructor stretch if you were offered an interview.” Find applicants who want Southwest bad enough to instruct for three years and they build seniority the whole time without violating scope. Seems like a win for everybody.
Uh, why the hell would anyone want to come work as an instructor if they can potentially be a junior captain at DAL, UAL, AA, FedEx and potentially UPS by the time they hit the line as a junior SWA FO?
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Old 12-11-2021, 11:37 AM
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Uh, why the hell would anyone want to come work as an instructor if they can potentially be a junior captain at DAL, UAL, AA, FedEx and potentially UPS by the time they hit the line as a junior SWA FO?

I’m referring to people who might not get the call otherwise. In other words if you’ve got those kind of options why go the sim instructor route in the first place?
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Old 12-11-2021, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GoFaster
I’ve heard anecdotal stories in the past of FedEx calling applicants before offering an interview and confirming that they would be “interested” in HKG or CGN… seems like this would be a way better strategy if you’re really hurting for instructors. “Not saying we’re offering you an interview, just confirming that you’d be willing to do a three year instructor stretch if you were offered an interview.” Find applicants who want Southwest bad enough to instruct for three years and they build seniority the whole time without violating scope. Seems like a win for everybody.
SWAPA disagrees with you that this new worker class of dual role pilot/instructor isn't violating our contract. Not a risk I would be interested in taking.
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Old 12-15-2021, 07:49 PM
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Anyone have info or heard if…. We are getting the VSP Severance pay, will we be able to keep that going as well as what is paid for being a Flight training instructor?
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Old 12-15-2021, 08:40 PM
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Anyone have info or heard if…. We are getting the VSP Severance pay, will we be able to keep that going as well as what is paid for being a Flight training instructor?
Huh? Are you on VSP? That would be in the agreement you signed with the company. Doubt you'd lose it should you take a different position at a later date.
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Old 12-16-2021, 04:27 AM
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Anyone have info or heard if…. We are getting the VSP Severance pay, will we be able to keep that going as well as what is paid for being a Flight training instructor?

I don’t see why you wouldn’t. You’re getting VSP based on your service as a pilot. You retired.
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Old 12-17-2021, 12:25 PM
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VSP was separation from the company and an independent agreement. However, you are eligible for rehire for any position at SWA. You may keep your employee number and that's about it. You start from ground zero. If you apply for a pilot position, you start as a new hire just as you would a simulator instructor (they are under a different union/contract). You get to keep your VSP package is what I would say.
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Old 12-17-2021, 12:48 PM
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After speaking with someone in the training hiring department, I’ve found out a few things about the gig: Pay is $9,119/month. Confirmed space to and from DAL while you’re working. Hotel also provided while you’re working for the week. This was much better than I anticipated. Expect 10 days off per month. There is a “trade” system but mentioned it was not as easy as the line pilot TT system. Negotiations starting in January.

Just passing along what I was told directly.

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Old 12-17-2021, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant
After speaking with someone in the training hiring department, I’ve found out a few things about the gig: Pay is $9,119/month. Confirmed space to and from DAL while you’re working. Hotel also provided while you’re working for the week. This was much better than I anticipated. Expect 10 days off per month. There is a “trade” system but mentioned it was not as easy as the line pilot TT system. Negotiations starting in January.

Just passing along what I was told directly.

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Are you saying for sim instructors who commute a hotel is provided? I interviewed for this position and was led to believe if I commute I have to pay out of pocket for a place to live.
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Old 12-17-2021, 02:18 PM
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All I can tell you Captalpha is this is what I was told yesterday on a phone call. It sounds like things are changing somewhat quickly as well…. Just my hunch.

How long ago did you interview?

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