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Old 04-17-2022 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Neat idea if they negotiate and make it official. Pilot gets hired, instructs for three years, skips commuting to OAK and reserve and takes their seniority to the line. Great recruiting tool.
the JetBlue model.
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Old 04-17-2022 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Neat idea if they negotiate and make it official. Pilot gets hired, instructs for three years, skips commuting to OAK and reserve and takes their seniority to the line. Great recruiting tool.

Because 15-17 years to upgrade will have people people lining up to instruct instead of just applying to a legacy with a good chance of upgrading on a WideBody in the same time?
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Old 04-17-2022 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonestarcaptain
Because 15-17 years to upgrade will have people people lining up to instruct instead of just applying to a legacy with a good chance of upgrading on a WideBody in the same time?
Not everyone will wait 15 years. There are 680 FO’s bidding captain right now that are senior to me (I’m 7th year) according to the SWAPA vacancy calculator. That could mean an 8 year upgrade. Just saying.
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Old 04-18-2022 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Not everyone will wait 15 years. There are 680 FO’s bidding captain right now that are senior to me (I’m 7th year) according to the SWAPA vacancy calculator. That could mean an 8 year upgrade. Just saying.
Agreed, if you’re willing to be based in the junior domiciles. I’m at 5.5 years with 870 bidding CA in front of me, that’s end of 2023 territory at our current rate. That’d be 7 years.
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Old 04-18-2022 | 05:54 AM
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This reminds me of the ole “how long to hold ATL?”
“10 years!”

Upgrade? 25 years assuming you wanna go to California.
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Old 04-28-2022 | 02:25 PM
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Stepping their offer up. 30000 bonus after year one, another 30000 after year two. Automatically get an FO slot after two years. Positive space travel to and from Dallas and hotels while you are there. Wish they had done this about two months ago.
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Old 04-28-2022 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UNDGUY
Stepping their offer up. 30000 bonus after year one, another 30000 after year two. Automatically get an FO slot after two years. Positive space travel to and from Dallas and hotels while you are there. Wish they had done this about two months ago.
anyone know if they are offering with those 2 years of pilot seniority? Or just start at the bottom once you start as a FO
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Old 04-28-2022 | 03:35 PM
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Email says after two years you will be added to a Pilot Initial Training class when available.
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Old 04-28-2022 | 03:54 PM
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It’d be easy to solve this problem if the company weren’t cheap and the instructor union would allow it.

Hire line pilots as instructors like UAL. They get paid 9 yr FO pay, bid a schedule based on instructor seniority, work a turn or 2 a month for currency and return to the line usually when they can hold a CA schedule they want.

You can use the normal instructors for ground school and initial/upgrade. Line guys do CQT, CKA do type rides and LOE’s.
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Old 04-28-2022 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UNDGUY
Stepping their offer up. 30000 bonus after year one, another 30000 after year two. Automatically get an FO slot after two years. Positive space travel to and from Dallas and hotels while you are there. Wish they had done this about two months ago.
well I am glad they finally realize they need to put up some cash. Will it be enough? Who knows.
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