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Old 05-09-2022 | 07:59 AM
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Leadership briefing in recurrent this week they said instructors making $170,000 for full time and they're going to start part time soon.
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Old 05-09-2022 | 08:17 AM
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Can confirm, this is correct. 170,000 on offer, at least to the Captains that are retiring, and being cold-called. If they start training right before they retire, they don't need to go through the whole program. They are bringing the $$. At least they are trying!
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Old 05-09-2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by poopooplatter
Can confirm, this is correct. 170,000 on offer, at least to the Captains that are retiring, and being cold-called. If they start training right before they retire, they don't need to go through the whole program. They are bringing the $$. At least they are trying!
That’s great! Maybe they’ll also call the guys within a couple years of retirement who regret not taking VSP…
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Old 05-09-2022 | 10:32 AM
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$170k is about 75% more than they were making a year ago and significantly more than a new hire pilot can pull down on our current contract. Interesting.
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Old 05-09-2022 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
$170k is about 75% more than they were making a year ago and significantly more than a new hire pilot can pull down on our current contract. Interesting.
I'd be interested to know the "break down" and how this works with the contract and other flight instructors. Is the pay higher for retiring pilots because current employees get full longevity or something? Are they including the value of hotels, travel, per diem, profit share?

FTCIs are unionized so you can't just make a separate work group that gets paid differently.
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Old 05-09-2022 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
$170k is about 75% more than they were making a year ago and significantly more than a new hire pilot can pull down on our current contract. Interesting.
Are y’all reading that?! So they can give the instructors a 75% raise (good) but what about us like swine?!
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Old 05-09-2022 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Are y’all reading that?! So they can give the instructors a 75% raise (good) but what about us like swine?!
Well, if the instructors start at 170k…by year 3 when they would hit the seniority list should be about 220k’ish for year 1 as a pilot? Making it easy.
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Old 05-10-2022 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AJ311
Well, if the instructors start at 170k…by year 3 when they would hit the seniority list should be about 220k’ish for year 1 as a pilot? Making it easy.
I doesn't work like that. When you move to the line you move work groups and go to year one pay on the pilot scale, and to the bottom of the pilot seniority list for bidding purposes.

I do believe you keep you longevity for some things like vacation (weeks awarded, not bid seniority of bidding).

If they are paying more I think that's a great thing...I'm just doubtful of that "$170k" number until an explanation/breakdown is given and it's explained how that works with the current FTCI contract. Hopefully an agreement was made that benefits ALL of the FTCIs.
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Old 05-10-2022 | 05:24 AM
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Good on them if it’s $170k to start. Supply and demand works. If I had to guess though….it’s around $120k and they’re adding in 401k match, medical/dental, etc

Got a buddy out on medical who applied and in his interview he was told around $120k…but things seem to change every week so who knows.
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Old 05-10-2022 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Proximity
I doesn't work like that. When you move to the line you move work groups and go to year one pay on the pilot scale, and to the bottom of the pilot seniority list for bidding purposes.

I do believe you keep you longevity for some things like vacation (weeks awarded, not bid seniority of bidding).

If they are paying more I think that's a great thing...I'm just doubtful of that "$170k" number until an explanation/breakdown is given and it's explained how that works with the current FTCI contract. Hopefully an agreement was made that benefits ALL of the FTCIs.
I’m aware. Jus’ sayin.
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