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Old 05-06-2022 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
And what happens to the previous crew that forgot the log? Capet dance with chief? That sucks. And to think, otherwise no one would have known.
Nope. I actually did ask a chief about this once, he said his office has never gotten a call about it, but if they did, they wouldn't care unless they saw your name coming up time after time.

Keep in mind the mechanic on the phone in the NOC would actually have to go through the trouble of finding the previous flight number, then the crews' names, then find out where they're based, find out the chief pilot's numbers, then make a phone call about it. I don't see that happening pretty much ever.
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Old 05-06-2022 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
Nope. I actually did ask a chief about this once, he said his office has never gotten a call about it, but if they did, they wouldn't care unless they saw your name coming up time after time.

Keep in mind the mechanic on the phone in the NOC would actually have to go through the trouble of finding the previous flight number, then the crews' names, then find out where they're based, find out the chief pilot's numbers, then make a phone call about it. I don't see that happening pretty much ever.
​​​​​​Ok. I had heard otherwise in the past, but maybe you're right. Either way, I can't imagine they would let it go so easily since it involves around 400 dollars give or take for each occurrence if you do it and call it in for the pay.
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Old 05-06-2022 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
​​​​​​Ok. I had heard otherwise in the past, but maybe you're right. Either way, I can't imagine they would let it go so easily since it involves around 400 dollars give or take for each occurrence if you do it and call it in for the pay.

400 bucks is chump change of what ground ops burns daily at this place .
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Old 05-06-2022 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
​​​​​​Ok. I had heard otherwise in the past, but maybe you're right. Either way, I can't imagine they would let it go so easily since it involves around 400 dollars give or take for each occurrence if you do it and call it in for the pay.
What I find much more offensive is when I show up on an am and there's a dead ostrich in an engine, the brake wear indicator pins are indented, or whatever other mechanical issue that would theoretically have been caught on a post flight. Not saying it's happened here obviously, but I've had many former lives in addition to my current life.

It takes two seconds to put the fluids in the logbook. I don't get a free pass for things I miss on my 4am walk around, why should somebody get a free pass on my certificate because they blocked in at 4am?
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Old 05-07-2022 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
What I find much more offensive is when I show up on an am and there's a dead ostrich in an engine, the brake wear indicator pins are indented, or whatever other mechanical issue that would theoretically have been caught on a post flight. Not saying it's happened here obviously, but I've had many former lives in addition to my current life.

It takes two seconds to put the fluids in the logbook. I don't get a free pass for things I miss on my 4am walk around, why should somebody get a free pass on my certificate because they blocked in at 4am?
I get what you're saying. 🍻 And I'm not arguing against your point of view. Just saying there are other potential consequences. And it's totally ok that you do it your way. Not that you need my signoff. All in all, this is why I often check if I didn't see the FO put it in the book. I'm not trying to be a control freak, I'm just trying to keep us on the right path.
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Old 05-07-2022 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
I get what you're saying. 🍻 And I'm not arguing against your point of view. Just saying there are other potential consequences. And it's totally ok that you do it your way. Not that you need my signoff. All in all, this is why I often check if I didn't see the FO put it in the book. I'm not trying to be a control freak, I'm just trying to keep us on the right path.
Totally agree with your method, especially with what our future inexperienced new hires will bring to the table. Nothing against them, but I'll definitely be watching them a little more carefully than I would today's FOs even.
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Old 05-07-2022 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
Totally agree with your method, especially with what our future inexperienced new hires will bring to the table. Nothing against them, but I'll definitely be watching them a little more carefully than I would today's FOs even.
I’m a sleeper cell of mediocrity…I’m here to keep cappies on their toes.
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Old 05-07-2022 | 12:30 PM
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Who is supposed to put it in the book?
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Old 05-07-2022 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Who is supposed to put it in the book?
Well played. Technically AOM 14.1 says the Captain will “ensure” that it’s been entered. Was hopeful for a moment that I could load shed that task. 🤣
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Old 05-07-2022 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Well played. Technically AOM 14.1 says the Captain will “ensure” that it’s been entered. Was hopeful for a moment that I could load shed that task. 🤣
I always do the paper log and the post flight report, unless the captain says “you run, I’ll get everything else.” That’s a nice thing a lot of captains do at the end of a pairing. I really appreciate it.
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