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Old 10-16-2022 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Zard
Excellent point. There better be some serious overrides to dissuade bait and switch, or I might just keep finding myself unfit to fly every time it happens.
Leg Change Override would address this. Maybe not quite to the level some want but for every leg different than scheduled you would get a 50% or 100% override depending if it was a JA or not. I honestly don't think it will dissuade them, they just want to hook people into the system.

https://www.swapa.org/internal/commi...ght-plan-2020/
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Old 10-16-2022 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Tankerhead
“Doin multiple legs per day at age 50 plus doesn't sound too exciting.”



Neither does watching the moon rise at 30W followed shortly by the sun after being up since 5am because circadian. And then trying to stay awake for the next 15 hrs to then try to rest up for your westbound leg after dealing with eurotrash for meals and whatever else you did in the motherland. To each his own.
I prefer my EuroTrash any day over the WN trailer riff raff!
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Old 10-16-2022 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Getting back to topic at hand. The MOU in the beginning of the year proved to me where the rates need to be and what the company can afford. Let's recap... Flying just our basic line earned us 150% of normal, picking up ANY open time paid double.

Just on that, the rates are done. Anything less = NO.

Now fix the rest.
Darn right! But can you get 38% to join in?
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Old 10-16-2022 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Darn right! But can you get 38% to join in?
Read the LAS rep candidate’s “Email 2.” Sad to say, as much as what he wrote almost sounds like satire to me, it’s not too far off from what a fair number of the guys I fly with seem to think.

It’s also not that far off from the sorts of rationalizations that many used to vote yes for both TA1 and TA2.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Read the LAS rep candidate’s “Email 2.” Sad to say, as much as what he wrote almost sounds like satire to me, it’s not too far off from what a fair number of the guys I fly with seem to think.

It’s also not that far off from the sorts of rationalizations that many used to vote yes for both TA1 and TA2.
Its how the 38% think. The kompany only needs 12% plus 1.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 03:18 PM
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Many if not most of the koolie 38%’ers retired, took the VSP, or are on the company negotiating team…

Ill be watching results closely but I’m expecting an epic smack down on a certain Las candidate and I expect the swapa budget/dues increase to pass soundly.
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Old 10-16-2022 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Many if not most of the koolie 38%’ers retired, took the VSP, or are on the company negotiating team…

Ill be watching results closely but I’m expecting an epic smack down on a certain Las candidate and I expect the swapa budget/dues increase to pass soundly.

Doubt it

I just flew with someone last week saying we are asking for too much, that SWA will go bankrupt in 2 years with what the pilots here are expecting
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Old 10-16-2022 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy2times
I prefer my EuroTrash any day over the WN trailer riff raff!
Originally Posted by tommy2times
What is the average & approx. pay for the 1st three years? I live in one of SWA's domiciles.
Sorry it didn’t work out for u
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Old 10-16-2022 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Read the LAS rep candidate’s “Email 2.” Sad to say, as much as what he wrote almost sounds like satire to me, it’s not too far off from what a fair number of the guys I fly with seem to think.

It’s also not that far off from the sorts of rationalizations that many used to vote yes for both TA1 and TA2.
He's gotta be trolling.... how could anyone take that guy seriously??
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Old 10-16-2022 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Many if not most of the koolie 38%’ers retired, took the VSP, or are on the company negotiating team…

Ill be watching results closely but I’m expecting an epic smack down on a certain Las candidate and I expect the swapa budget/dues increase to pass soundly.
All of the VSP’ers I know were some of the most hardcore anti-koolie, pro-pilot guys, by far, in the pilot group. Two very vocal and prominent guys in particular were RB and JL.

Think about it. A koolie who “would do this job for free” is gonna stick around. An anti-koolie is gonna be more apt to bolt when they can. That’s what a lot of VSP’ers did. IMO, we’re weaker without the VSP guys.
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