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10-16-2022 | 06:16 PM
#101
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All of the VSP’ers I know were some of the most hardcore anti-koolie, pro-pilot guys, by far, in the pilot group. Two very vocal and prominent guys in particular were RB and JL.
Think about it. A koolie who “would do this job for free” is gonna stick around. An anti-koolie is gonna be more apt to bolt when they can. That’s what a lot of VSP’ers did. IMO, we’re weaker without the VSP guys.
Think about it. A koolie who “would do this job for free” is gonna stick around. An anti-koolie is gonna be more apt to bolt when they can. That’s what a lot of VSP’ers did. IMO, we’re weaker without the VSP guys.
10-16-2022 | 06:33 PM
#102
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From: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Read the LAS rep candidate’s “Email 2.” Sad to say, as much as what he wrote almost sounds like satire to me, it’s not too far off from what a fair number of the guys I fly with seem to think.
It’s also not that far off from the sorts of rationalizations that many used to vote yes for both TA1 and TA2.
It’s also not that far off from the sorts of rationalizations that many used to vote yes for both TA1 and TA2.
10-16-2022 | 07:00 PM
#104
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What he said once again. The 38%ers are alive and well. Heck I just flew with a 1221 that was one. Like he said. Many of the VSP were the ones that wanted to get an industry leading contract. Many held picket signs. Without the VSP pilots. We might be at 40+% yessie koolie.
jeesh! Wtf?
10-16-2022 | 07:04 PM
#105
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What he said once again. The 38%ers are alive and well. Heck I just flew with a 1221 that was one. Like he said. Many of the VSP were the ones that wanted to get an industry leading contract. Many held picket signs. Without the VSP pilots. We might be at 40+% yessie koolie.
So I’m trying to stay quiet and listen/learn since I’ve been here less than 6months, but a large portion of new hires are very aware of the regional pay scales being greater than our rates (temporary or not), as well as our unique fleet situation and the necessity to attract solid pilots.
Im guessing that the guys on the bottom seeing the discrepancy are, on the whole, replacing the VSP guys/gals that wanted a new contract.
I can’t remember the exact number of VSP guys, but what was it like in comparison to the new hire numbers over the last 6-9 months?
Possible silver lining for a vote?
10-17-2022 | 04:13 AM
#108
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I thought the same think. Not only is he on here reading , he feels compelled to post on a fourm where he has no skin in the game nor does anyone care what he/she thinks
My guess is low self esteem and if at SWA would be part of the 38 percent .
10-18-2022 | 07:24 AM
#109
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Getting back to topic at hand. The MOU in the beginning of the year proved to me where the rates need to be and what the company can afford. Let's recap... Flying just our basic line earned us 150% of normal, picking up ANY open time paid double.
Just on that, the rates are done. Anything less = NO.
Now fix the rest.
Just on that, the rates are done. Anything less = NO.
Now fix the rest.
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