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Old 12-28-2022 | 03:17 PM
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This is a fair take on why SWA management failed to implement a solution that could have prevented this, but not an example of the available solutions lacking the automation capability to not lose thousands of pilots. In fairness, what you identify is far more important, the root of the issue if you will.
Its exactly the root mentality. SWAPA has been all over the company for years about tech “debt.” It’s about saving the money And paying dividends. A blood priority mentality if you will. We apparently still can’t process ticket purchases made in Canada because of the tech debt.

They want to pinch the pennies until the sh!t hits the fan and then end up upside down in the cost.

Pride comes before the fall. Again.
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Old 12-28-2022 | 03:19 PM
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This comment led me to daydream about what a meltdown at Spirit would look like ha ha ha ha
I believe they had one in Florida a while back. I heard crews were escorted through the SIDA area so they didn't have to walk through the terminal for safety reasons.
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Old 12-28-2022 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Holy Christ... you don't and may you never know what you're talking about.

This level of ignorance can only be cured by speaking with people who fled communism. You clearly have NO idea what communism is, let alone living under it. Whack and I do because we both lived under it.

For Pete's sakes... please, PLEASE pick up a book and talk to someone who's lived under both systems. Or.... are you perhaps one of those who thinks "it'll be different here"?
Sorry, but no, you didn't live under communism (a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocatingclass war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.). Dictatorship, probably, definitely not a democracy, maybe fascist. You show me a country where the workers owned the factory. Just because it was called the communist party didn't make it any more communist than the Democratic Party in the US is "democratic". Parents lived in Romania. I have lived in 10 other countries.
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Old 12-28-2022 | 05:04 PM
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Three words actually. Texas, Air Force.
“Three words actually. Texas, the Zoo”

Not the Air Force…..the ZOO. Had to fix it for you…..
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Old 12-28-2022 | 05:20 PM
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Sorry, but no, you didn't live under communism (a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocatingclass war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.). Dictatorship, probably, definitely not a democracy, maybe fascist. You show me a country where the workers owned the factory. Just because it was called the communist party didn't make it any more communist than the Democratic Party in the US is "democratic". Parents lived in Romania. I have lived in 10 other countries.
What town in Romania?
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Old 12-28-2022 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
“Three words actually. Texas, the Zoo”

Not the Air Force…..the ZOO. Had to fix it for you…..
Haha. Appreciate ya!
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Old 12-28-2022 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Sorry, but no, you didn't live under communism (a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocatingclass war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.). Dictatorship, probably, definitely not a democracy, maybe fascist. You show me a country where the workers owned the factory. Just because it was called the communist party didn't make it any more communist than the Democratic Party in the US is "democratic". Parents lived in Romania. I have lived in 10 other countries.
You would be the first one getting "lead poisoning", or being sent to pound rocks while getting "reeducated." And then, maybe if you were lucky, you wouldn't lose your civil rights.

See, in communism, there is no such thing as a person or individualism, so your entire argument falls on its face. It's collectivism. In communist countries, "The People" own everything, not individuals, and there's a difference. The mill next to where I grew up was indeed "owned by the People." It was run by the "workers collective." That "collective" was managed by loyal members of the Communist Party forming a Committee and the Party doctrine had to be adhered to. You were expected to work. You didn't complain. You were paid just enough to barely survive. You had NO incentive whatsoever to do better, nor could you. You would work for 30 years then you'd collect a pension. That pension would be roughly the equivalent of something between Supplemental Security Income and Social Security in this country. Great living, huh? Mind you, all of this required blind obedience.

Now, to purple hairs in this country, that sounds fantastic. The problem would arise the second you started criticizing it, or if someone questioned your blind obedience to the Party. In other words, if you said anything against the government, you'd disappear, or end up needing to get "reeducated." But get the best part, the communists would strip you of your civil rights. Think about that for a second. You're no longer a person. You cannot get an ID so you cannot work. You cannot get any benefits such as health insurance because you don't have any "papers." You cannot get a passport in order to leave the country because you no longer have civil rights as an anti-communist, or being a close relative of an anti-communist. Serves them right, right? Can't have 'misinformation' or anyone doubting the words and the wisdom of THE PEOPLE and the PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT. I could go on and on and on...

But you're onto something. Are you saying that communism briefs really well and that the implementation of it went way wrong? Gee, I wonder why that is.... How do you think people like that ever got into power? What do you think was their selling point? In any case, the human nature wouldn't have anything to do with it, would it? Naw.... definitely not.
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Old 12-28-2022 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You would be the first one getting "lead poisoning", or being sent to pound rocks while getting "reeducated." And then, maybe if you were lucky, you wouldn't lose your civil rights.

See, in communism, there is no such thing as a person or individualism, so your entire argument falls on its face. It's collectivism. In communist countries, "The People" own everything, not individuals, and there's a difference. The mill next to where I grew up was indeed "owned by the People." It was run by the "workers collective." That "collective" was managed by loyal members of the Communist Party forming a Committee and the Party doctrine had to be adhered to. You were expected to work. You didn't complain. You were paid just enough to barely survive. You had NO incentive whatsoever to do better, nor could you. You would work for 30 years then you'd collect a pension. That pension would be roughly the equivalent of something between Supplemental Security Income and Social Security in this country. Great living, huh? Mind you, all of this required blind obedience.

Now, to purple hairs in this country, that sounds fantastic. The problem would arise the second you started criticizing it, or if someone questioned your blind obedience to the Party. In other words, if you said anything against the government, you'd disappear, or end up needing to get "reeducated." But get the best part, the communists would strip you of your civil rights. Think about that for a second. You're no longer a person. You cannot get an ID so you cannot work. You cannot get any benefits such as health insurance because you don't have any "papers." You cannot get a passport in order to leave the country because you no longer have civil rights as an anti-communist, or being a close relative of an anti-communist. Serves them right, right? Can't have 'misinformation' or anyone doubting the words and the wisdom of THE PEOPLE and the PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT. I could go on and on and on...

But you're onto something. Are you saying that communism briefs really well and that the implementation of it went way wrong? Gee, I wonder why that is.... How do you think people like that ever got into power? What do you think was their selling point? In any case, the human nature wouldn't have anything to do with it, would it? Naw.... definitely not.
Dude, really. Look up the definition of communism. There has never been a country where the people owned everything, people worked as hard as they could, and got paid as much as they needed (spoiler alert: it wouldn't work, because communism assumes people are good). That mill wasn't owned by the people, because the people had no say in what happened at the mill. The party ruled the people, and within the party there was a ruling elite. Not even close to collectivism, just plain dictatorship. And definitely communist in name only. You said it yourself, disagree, and disappear. I am happy for you, you were able to escape whatever country you left. You suffered oppression, not communism. Words matter, especially if you tell other people they have no clue....

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Old 12-28-2022 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
What town in Romania?
I have no idea honestly, they lived there before I was born, close to 60 years ago. And they weren't from there, but moved there for my father's job.
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Old 12-28-2022 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
blablabla.
hey kids! This is what getting your butt kicked in an online debate looks like. Granted, trying to defend communism is a Herculean task, but SS shows us all how foolish trying to defend it is.
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