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02-05-2023, 11:57 AM
#93
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Originally Posted by cr700
LMAO seeing you post over here. You could be at AA but chose the dumpster and then left the dumpster for a total dumpster fire. Enjoy those 4 to 5 legs a day and 10 year upgrade. AA upgrade down to 4-5 year range depending on what you want.
I am glad you are so confident on the future of AA. It will help you sleep better at night for the time being .
02-05-2023, 12:31 PM
#94
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Originally Posted by FastNeatAvg
At what base? DAL is 10.5 correct?
However, the upgrade time in Dallas (and systemwide), is only really relevant to Zap and those right on the verge of holding it. There were very few hires in 2011-2013 so the upgrade time for all bases excluding ATL and MCO will no doubt drop in the next few bids.
For new hire...I wouldn't look at current upgrade time. Will Southwest be a 1000 aircraft airline as BJ and AW keep saying or due to headwinds remain at 750ish as they have since 2010? Only expansion will drive down the upgrade time for new hires. At zero growth it will take 11 years for the most junior pilot to reach 60% system seniority If we grow to 1000 planes and staff at the ratio we use now, that comes down to five years.
02-05-2023, 01:07 PM
#95
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
I’ve never done 5 legs a day here. 4 is rare. Upgrade is 7.5 yrs and dropping. At least you’re correct for calling AA a dumpster.
02-05-2023, 01:26 PM
#96
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
I’ve never done 5 legs a day here. 4 is rare. Upgrade is 7.5 yrs and dropping. At least you’re correct for calling AA a dumpster.
02-05-2023, 03:45 PM
#98
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Posts: 101
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
I do five periodically and do four at least one day per trip. 7.5 year upgrade is nothing to brag about, but culture…
02-05-2023, 03:59 PM
#99
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Originally Posted by Mozam
Parking is not paid nor is uniform allowance. If you get sick and run out of sick time , you no longer have travel privileges to get to your cancer treatments.
So going with the plumber analogy, plumbers cost $XXX per hour AND get paid parking at the job site!
We can’t keep letting these guys get away with selling every little perk and benefit of being an airline pilot for an extra buck or two per TFP! There is a lot more to a mature airline CBA than pay rates.
02-05-2023, 04:41 PM
#100
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Position: 737 FO
Posts: 270
Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
This is important but equally important are the company apologists who say, “just pay me more and I’ll park where I want”. Missing the point to an absurd degree. It’s an industry standard cost of doing business.
So going with the plumber analogy, plumbers cost $XXX per hour AND get paid parking at the job site!
We can’t keep letting these guys get away with selling every little perk and benefit of being an airline pilot for an extra buck or two per TFP! There is a lot more to a mature airline CBA than pay rates.
So going with the plumber analogy, plumbers cost $XXX per hour AND get paid parking at the job site!
We can’t keep letting these guys get away with selling every little perk and benefit of being an airline pilot for an extra buck or two per TFP! There is a lot more to a mature airline CBA than pay rates.
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