Originally Posted by nene

Bombardier was trying to persuade a North American customer for over budget, overdue 220 plane. Finally get Delta to order 100 at (arguably a loss) but Boeing (despite not even having a competing product) throws a hissy fit to the WTO and complains that the Cannuck govt (in full socialist mode wanting to preserve manufacturing jobs in Canada) had loaned/given Bombardier something like $2B in subsidies to develop the clean sheet 220.

WTO (with US backing) decides it's appropriate to levy 300% duty on any imported 220.

Bombardier left with no option but to sell 51% to Airbus who in turn expand their Alabama manufacturing plant to produce planes for North American markets to avoid duties.

Them is the facts, so hard to see how Bombardier "screwed the pooch" except to try and design a clean sheet airplane to compete with the big boys in the small B737 and A319 sized market.

Originally Posted by nene

Bombardier was trying to persuade a North American customer for over budget, overdue 220 plane. Finally get Delta to order 100 at (arguably a loss) but Boeing (despite not even having a competing product) throws a hissy fit to the WTO and complains that the Cannuck govt (in full socialist mode wanting to preserve manufacturing jobs in Canada) had loaned/given Bombardier something like $2B in subsidies to develop the clean sheet 220.

WTO (with US backing) decides it's appropriate to levy 300% duty on any imported 220.

Bombardier left with no option but to sell 51% to Airbus who in turn expand their Alabama manufacturing plant to produce planes for North American markets to avoid duties.

Them is the facts, so hard to see how Bombardier "screwed the pooch" except to try and design a clean sheet airplane to compete with the big boys in the small B737 and A319 sized market.

Originally Posted by flyguy81

Well it is a competitive disadvantage if your private company is being subsidized by the govt. I’m sure Boeing gets Fed $ as well (Def for the military jets…not sure how much for 121). Not Boeing’s fault Bombardier was over budget and couldn’t sell the thing (my regional has C-series in order on the off chance legacies would relax scope…newsflash…legacies said F you”.)

It’s still a good plane and would prob still be a C-Series if Bombardier was financially competent.

Originally Posted by nene

It's a problem when Communist, socialist, and capitalist countries all try to compete in the same marketplace. The market gets severely distorted.

Ironic that Boeing/US's victory in WTO just ultimately forced Airbus to significantly expand its US manufacturing footprint. Not sure that's the way the Boeing execs foresaw the outcome of that dispute.

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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator

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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

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