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Old 10-09-2023 | 10:33 AM
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Long call/short call

Trip ownership

Non-contactable after reserve assignment

SWAPA Hotel committee

Long/short hotels

JA protection

Hotel in domicile for JA

Pos space home after JA

200% JA and out of footprint reassignment

1 for 1 Comp days for JA

Hot Meals

Training bidding

Trip drop based on a realistic and transparent algorithm

Continuous monthly open time, FCFS

100% retro

Retro established in advance for next-contract

Redeye protection, no legs before or after

Leg change override

Shoulder flying override

PS commute for IROPs

PS for commuter clause policy

Hotel rooms for commuters (this was a major attraction for new pilots at the regionals)

Parking

Uniforms

Per Diem increase


pay rates that reflect the fact that we’re the most productive pilots in the industry

improvements in disability and sick to include all benefits, accruals and DEC while out.

increased vacation

$1m paid life insurance

my vote is NO
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Old 10-09-2023 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
Long call/short call

Trip ownership

Non-contactable after reserve assignment

SWAPA Hotel committee

Long/short hotels

JA protection

Hotel in domicile for JA

Pos space home after JA

200% JA and out of footprint reassignment

1 for 1 Comp days for JA

Hot Meals

Training bidding

Trip drop based on a realistic and transparent algorithm

Continuous monthly open time, FCFS

100% retro

Retro established in advance for next-contract

Redeye protection, no legs before or after

Leg change override

Shoulder flying override

PS commute for IROPs

PS for commuter clause policy

Hotel rooms for commuters (this was a major attraction for new pilots at the regionals)

Parking

Uniforms

Per Diem increase


pay rates that reflect the fact that we’re the most productive pilots in the industry

improvements in disability and sick to include all benefits, accruals and DEC while out.

increased vacation

$1m paid life insurance

my vote is NO
You and I will be voting no.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
You and I will be voting no.
Me too.🙄 guaranteed.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
Me too.🙄 guaranteed.
I was really hoping that I'd be able to vote yes for something SWAPA put out before I retire.

Based on what they're telling us about already AIPed and close to AIP sections, it looks like the SAV might be the only one.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SlipKid
I was really hoping that I'd be able to vote yes for something SWAPA put out before I retire.

Based on what they're telling us about already AIPed and close to AIP sections, it looks like the SAV might be the only one.
That’s fine. Maybe you can retire with the distinction of being part of the only SWAPA pilots that struck.

🔥👇
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Old 10-09-2023 | 03:50 PM
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Just signed up to picket the Culture Event in Dallas on the 26th. See ya’ll there.
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Old 10-09-2023 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
and disability INCLUDING the retirement component that Delta and United offer.

Bad enough to go out on disability but to have to fund your own retirement from those disability payments is not okay.

and before you younger folks dismiss this as an old guy problem, think that it could just as easily happen to you snowboarding, or hanging Christmas lights, or diving into the pool.

Disability is important for ALL of us, and should be a red line issue.
Zap, I've been preaching this "politely" with the guys I fly with. After flying with a guy who was out for 2 yrs, you become a second class citizen.
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