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10-06-2023 | 07:36 AM
#11
At your mom's house
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They have already not met my expectations
10-06-2023 | 08:29 AM
#12
gets time off
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10-06-2023 | 03:33 PM
#13
Gets Weekends Off
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The co-terminal language is a big NO for me. Not because any of it matters to me, but that it is a bell weather moment where I believe several SWAPA insiders are pushing it because they have been enticed to sell it as a gain. The loyalty test will lead to a management job in the near future. This bovine excrement happens every negotiation cycle.
10-06-2023 | 03:46 PM
#14
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there’s no need for separate hotels.. but having short/long stay would be nice, as well as separate vans and removing the need for CA to check the girt bar. That’s just a lame excuse to keep us waiting.
10-06-2023 | 04:30 PM
#15
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I’m really thinking of a SWAPA hotel committee and dumping the CAB. If we’re at the same hotel fine, but it’s up to them to get there.
10-06-2023 | 05:32 PM
#16
gets time off
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The co-terminal language is a big NO for me. Not because any of it matters to me, but that it is a bell weather moment where I believe several SWAPA insiders are pushing it because they have been enticed to sell it as a gain. The loyalty test will lead to a management job in the near future. This bovine excrement happens every negotiation cycle.
10-06-2023 | 06:51 PM
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Last contract negotiations, Frontier added pairings without adding pilots or planes in order to force "irregular ops", and used that as an excuse to cancel pilot's vacations. They signed a spirit-minus contract less than a year later. I can't imagine why anyone would spend one day longer than necessary at Frontier. It's one of only 2 companies I never even applied to when I was starting out, because I could tell from the outside how toxic that place would be.
10-07-2023 | 05:55 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
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Agreed, I could care less if they are in the same place as us, I just dont want to burn 30-40 minutes of my overnight waiting. The girt bar thing is ridiculous, if the FA's can be trusted all day long to make sure they are disengaged and engaged, why suddenly at night are they incapable of that.
10-12-2023 | 05:58 AM
#19
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From: FIRE ALPA
Agreed, I could care less if they are in the same place as us, I just dont want to burn 30-40 minutes of my overnight waiting. The girt bar thing is ridiculous, if the FA's can be trusted all day long to make sure they are disengaged and engaged, why suddenly at night are they incapable of that.
10-12-2023 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator;[url=tel:3707008
3707008[/url]]1. I already know they haven’t addressed everything that’s important to me, ie hotel language.
2. In this environment you can always do better.
My vote is NO
2. In this environment you can always do better.
My vote is NO
agree. I’m sick of the dingy double tree tours, and 40 minute van rides with 13 hours of “rest”
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