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10-15-2023, 01:43 PM
#11
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,796
Originally Posted by jetset
I wonder if SWAPA would entertain a resolution to do this. We would be the first if they did. Great idea though!
10-15-2023, 03:29 PM
#13
More Cowbell!!!
Joined APC: Nov 2011
Position: Spreading the LUV from the "Write" seat!!!
Posts: 344
Originally Posted by Stitches
Get ready for the company to leak a crap retro payout around the holidays. They are counting on us to just see dollar signs and the idea of paying off Christmas early. It’s coming.
Ratification Bonus Letter of Agreement(RB LOA)
SWA due to counter. Our RB LOA applies to all current Pilots and those who have retired since the amendable date. SWAPA understands that we cannot allow any bonus less than full retro because we cannot reward management’s delay tactics.
10-15-2023, 04:34 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,618
Originally Posted by Tenacvols
They can leak what ever they want. SWAPA knows it’s 100% full retro or it’s DOA…
Ratification Bonus Letter of Agreement(RB LOA)
SWA due to counter. Our RB LOA applies to all current Pilots and those who have retired since the amendable date. SWAPA understands that we cannot allow any bonus less than full retro because we cannot reward management’s delay tactics.
Ratification Bonus Letter of Agreement(RB LOA)
SWA due to counter. Our RB LOA applies to all current Pilots and those who have retired since the amendable date. SWAPA understands that we cannot allow any bonus less than full retro because we cannot reward management’s delay tactics.
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10-15-2023, 04:36 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,618
Originally Posted by Stitches
Get ready for the company to leak a crap retro payout around the holidays. They are counting on us to just see dollar signs and the idea of paying off Christmas early. It’s coming.
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10-15-2023, 10:34 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,457
Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Nah. You’re not including the roadshow and voting period into your calculations. In your scenario retro wouldn’t be paid out until well into the first quarter.
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And yes. Retro is a third rail for this pilot group and everyone knows it. It is either paid in full or we will be going for round 2.
10-16-2023, 05:57 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,854
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Or even the first part of Q2. One great thing about the AIP to contract period is that it is looooong. You will be amazed what questions won't get asked until the 11th hour, especially when there are hidden gems in there.
And yes. Retro is a third rail for this pilot group and everyone knows it. It is either paid in full or we will be going for round 2.
And yes. Retro is a third rail for this pilot group and everyone knows it. It is either paid in full or we will be going for round 2.
10-16-2023, 07:45 AM
#18
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 2,030
Originally Posted by flyguy81
NC said as sections are AIP’d, they’re writing the language so when they announce we have a AIP….the TA will already be writtten and ready to be voted on. Still said they’re not in a rush and are going to be doing podcasts, road shows, etc but we could theoretically have a vote end 30 days after it’s announced.
…my vote is No.
10-16-2023, 09:34 AM
#19
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Posts: 3,457
Originally Posted by flyguy81
NC said as sections are AIP’d, they’re writing the language so when they announce we have a AIP….the TA will already be writtten and ready to be voted on. Still said they’re not in a rush and are going to be doing podcasts, road shows, etc but we could theoretically have a vote end 30 days after it’s announced.
Look at little things and language that has gotten past the NC and members:
irregular ops - how is this still a thing?
open time giveaway rule that we did to ourselves that has become a restrictive mess that went way beyond its original intent and eventually had to go to arbitration
sick time accumulation on premium trips...has personally cost me tens of thousands of dollars.
I could go on and on. 3 months is about the right amount of time between a finished TA and a ratified deal.
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