View Poll Results: AA or SWA
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49.32%
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50.68%
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SWA or AA?
02-18-2024, 09:17 AM
#161
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
That’s called being senior. Being senior at a legacy gets you 20 days off and averaging less than 1 leg a day on Widebody.
I’m more curious to where the OP lives and where Delta, United, maybe even JetBlue could stack up in all this.
I’m more curious to where the OP lives and where Delta, United, maybe even JetBlue could stack up in all this.
02-18-2024, 09:26 AM
#162
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Position: B737
Posts: 3,668
Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
It is absurd. You’re comparing your experience from 17-24 years ago with AMR during the lost decade which included major events that will be read by our children in history class (9/11, Financial crisis).
The culture of negativity you described from
20 years ago does not exists at AAL today. I’ve experienced nothing close to what you’ve described.
The culture of negativity you described from
20 years ago does not exists at AAL today. I’ve experienced nothing close to what you’ve described.
It’s the reason I didn’t apply to AA later on. Therefore, to me, it’s not absurd at all.
I got on with SWA in 2015. I’m happy where I am. I’m glad you are happy where you are.
02-18-2024, 09:47 AM
#163
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Joined APC: Jan 2021
Posts: 1,124
Originally Posted by PhxJester
I would bet your bedroom is covered in AA memorabilia. I know, you don’t work at AA.
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
02-18-2024, 09:52 AM
#164
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Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,234
Originally Posted by at6d
Did you experience the Lost Decade at AMR?
It’s the reason I didn’t apply to AA later on. Therefore, to me, it’s not absurd at all.
I got on with SWA in 2015. I’m happy where I am. I’m glad you are happy where you are.
It’s the reason I didn’t apply to AA later on. Therefore, to me, it’s not absurd at all.
I got on with SWA in 2015. I’m happy where I am. I’m glad you are happy where you are.
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
02-18-2024, 10:04 AM
#165
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
You didn't apply at AA because of the past? That's like not applying to SW because upgrade used to be 10 yrs.
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
02-18-2024, 10:06 AM
#166
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Posts: 92
Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Is this some weird coping mechanism for you? does believing that help you sleep better at night SWA fan boy? I get it, you’re still living in the past when Southwest was growing. Now you’re losing market share and considered a touch and go airline for the Big 3. You’re a basically an afterthought to the new pilots entering the industry.
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
When I post that article again in a few years it won’t say United in fourth place anymore. That will be Southwest’s new spot. That’s your future SWA Kool-Aid boy.
02-18-2024, 10:07 AM
#167
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Window seat
Posts: 5,234
Originally Posted by flyguy81
I commuted on them and they treated me like dog sh!t every.
02-18-2024, 10:13 AM
#168
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Posts: 1,124
Originally Posted by PhxJester
do you wear plastic AA wings over your pilot hat logo too?
02-18-2024, 10:15 AM
#169
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
That's roughly the same overall seniority percentage he's at here at SWA being a 2015 hire. What's your point? WB flying? Not everyone's cup of tea. Bases? Job security? Balance sheet? Or how about something simpler.... one of the main reasons companies choose not to hire people is because a candidate wouldn't be a good fit for the company for whatever reason. Is it hard to imagine that some people may feel the same way about the company?
His n/b relative seniority will accelerate as a greater percentage of the guys senior to him transition to w/b flying. That's a factor when you compare a purely n/b final seniority progression vs a seniority progession that includes w/b flying. If you only want to fly n/b 85-90% of the guys senior to you will leave the n/b flying. So retiring as #2000 will even more senior as a n/b CA. Current #2000 is #149 system wide as a 737 CA.
02-18-2024, 10:21 AM
#170
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Position: B737
Posts: 3,668
Originally Posted by Sliceback
You didn't apply at AA because of the past? That's like not applying to SW because upgrade used to be 10 yrs.
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
Mid 2015 newhire is 8200 of 15,900 pilots. 52%. 737 CA? 52% system wide. 737 FO? 6%. That's a big reason guys went to AA. 787 FO? 75%. 787 CA? Maybe 2031?
From my perspective, I’m in a good spot. The only greener grass I’ll be chasing is a prospective BNA bid, my car project (not a Miata) and a better exercise routine (ok starting one anyway).
We make choices with the options and info we have at that time, and we will know how we fared the day we retire.
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