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Old 02-17-2024, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Generally you do the full training program. Only difference is a few items would not need to be checked on the ride since you already have the type. And the training will be very easy, BTDT.

There is a rarely used FAR provision to allow for a short course for people coming from another airline on the same equipment. But I've only seen airlines bother with that when they knew they were hiring a large number of such folks in a short time-frame. I think the course may have to be customized based on where the pilots are coming from, so not something they would do for a few stray cats here and there. I know one or two regionals did it when flying was getting moved around and lots of people were chasing the flying.
I think for WN is that if you have the type, you skip the oral, however, even that is or has gone away in lieu of a written test.
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Old 02-17-2024, 02:49 PM
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Lmao here we go with the “cUlTuRe” gaslighting to why you “decided” to go to SWA. It’s the Big 3 THEN Southwest. Always an afterthought, nobody at AA looks back at what could have been at Southwest. Only Southwest pilots do that, I wonder why. Most of you are Big 3 rejects but won’t admit it. Enjoy busting your ass on the 73 for the entirety of your career.

This entire thread is only a debate because the OP would be driving to work at SWA verse commute by air. He will no doubt look back in 10 years and kick
himself for retreating to SWA when all his buddies over at AA are flying 6 legs a month on the Widebody averaging 20 days off, dozing for dollars, all at significantly higher pay rates.
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Old 02-17-2024, 03:42 PM
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Lmao here we go with the “cUlTuRe” gaslighting to why you “decided” to go to SWA. It’s the Big 3 THEN Southwest. Always an afterthought, nobody at AA looks back at what could have been at Southwest. Only Southwest pilots do that, I wonder why. Most of you are Big 3 rejects but won’t admit it. Enjoy busting your ass on the 73 for the entirety of your career.

This entire thread is only a debate because the OP would be driving to work at SWA verse commute by air. He will no doubt look back in 10 years and kick
himself for retreating to SWA when all his buddies over at AA are flying 6 legs a month on the Widebody averaging 20 days off, dozing for dollars, all at significantly higher pay rates.
I personally know 3 dudes and 1 chick who got TBNT from SWA and literally all got picked up by AA, so easy there big fella’.

and let’s be real, from your gate agents to your pilots…AA folks are the most depressed looking…all the time.
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Old 02-17-2024, 03:47 PM
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I personally know 3 dudes and 1 chick who got TBNT from SWA and literally all got picked up by AA, so easy there big fella’.

and let’s be real, from your gate agents to your pilots…AA folks are the most depressed looking…all the time.
I don’t work for AA “big fella”. The only instance in my career were I’ve witnessed a depressed looking group of pilots was ironically Southwest pre-TA. You all looked miserable.

The stained shirt that hasn’t been ironed in two weeks look still holds strong though!
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Old 02-17-2024, 03:54 PM
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I don’t work for AA “big fella”. The only instance in my career were I’ve witnessed a depressed looking group of pilots was ironically Southwest pre-TA. You all looked miserable.
You don’t work for AA, yet you go to bat for them on the SWA forum…that’s weird.

Show me on the doll where SWA hurt you.
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Old 02-17-2024, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
I don’t work for AA “big fella”. The only instance in my career were I’ve witnessed a depressed looking group of pilots was ironically Southwest pre-TA. You all looked miserable.

The stained shirt that hasn’t been ironed in two weeks look still holds strong though!


That must be an inter web image you came up with you perv.
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Old 02-17-2024, 04:09 PM
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Eh to each his own. If AA called today and offered another recall with my original USAir date of hire, I'd be gone.

I'm happy at SWA. It's a good place to work . It does feel like a regional from time to time though.

We all view this career through the lens of our past experience. For those of us who spent the lost decade either furloughed or stagnant at a commuter, Southwest was an appealing goal.

Thats not the situation job seekers today are in, but for many of us we've made our bed and we're in way too deep to go elsewhere now.

Thats why the "my airline is better than yours" debates are a joke. They are generational, and largely dependent upon the state of the industry at the moment the question is asked.

This is the year 2000 in the weeks and month leading up to 9/11. Every airline hiring like gangbusters. Absurdly lucrative contracts being signed. Industry consolidation...

History may not repeat itself but in a moment like this the last place I'd want to be is the bottom of a seniority list at any of the legacies... including SWA.
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Originally Posted by PhxJester View Post
You don’t work for AA, yet you go to bat for them on the SWA forum…that’s weird.

Show me on the doll where SWA hurt you.
I don’t have to work for either SWA or AA to voice the truth you can’t stand to read. There will never be a debate between LCC’s vs a legacy. It’s an obvious decision every single time if the commute isn’t a factor.
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Old 02-17-2024, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN View Post
Lmao here we go with the “cUlTuRe” gaslighting to why you “decided” to go to SWA. It’s the Big 3 THEN Southwest. Always an afterthought, nobody at AA looks back at what could have been at Southwest. Only Southwest pilots do that, I wonder why. Most of you are Big 3 rejects but won’t admit it. Enjoy busting your ass on the 73 for the entirety of your career.

This entire thread is only a debate because the OP would be driving to work at SWA verse commute by air. He will no doubt look back in 10 years and kick
himself for retreating to SWA when all his buddies over at AA are flying 6 legs a month on the Widebody averaging 20 days off, dozing for dollars, all at significantly higher pay rates.
I have no shame to admit I was denied by UA first try, hired second time. Hired at delta but turned it down. Southwest, post contract, is not an afterthought. Equal NB pay, retirement, and benefits along with better schedule flexibility and work rules. We don’t fly wide bodies or get crew meals. Isn’t a deal breaker for a lot of people. As for the culture, no one who actually flies for Southwest goes around bragging about how great everything is. Most will admit it’s gone downhill since Herb’s passing. However, I do believe Southwest has the most humble, friendly, and down to earth pilot group. One thing Southwest has done consistently well is hire good PEOPLE. That’s not to say AA DL and UA haven’t. But Southwest is a solid place to work where you can make an absolute killing while flying airplanes with cool people.
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Old 02-17-2024, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Amen to that. It's just a job, not a religion
Ecactly! Not a religion! SWA folks constantly leg hump the culture. Yet I absolutely guarantee I destroy this guys earnings in every single metric. I get so tired of hearing “balance sheet” or whatever other dumb **** about AA. It’s not a hobby. We show up to work and make money, and there’s zero chance anyone who knows the contact at AA is behind, dollar for dollar and month for month. Will there be a day that’s not true, absolutely, but now, not a chance.
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