Russell Case

I’ve heard it has nothing to do with financials, and more along the lines of with the new contract, they have less retirements and overall attrition.

Turbosina

My CJO was mid October and I'm in the March 19 class.. So my guess is that the cutoff would be in late October or early November in terms of the CJO date ?

Well anyhow there'll be one happy pilot out there tomorrow because I'm headed to UAL instead. Will inform SWA tomorrow so at least one person who thought their class was cancelled, can have my spot...

wnplt

I was in the pool for over a year and a half in 2001 to 2003. In the realm of things it wasnt a big deal at all.

maniac28

It's not due to a slow down in attrition. There was a slow down in attrition because no one was going to leave when they are about to get a retro check. Now that the retro's are out attrition is going to pick back up some. The contract is indeed good. But other airlines are still retiring a lot of pilots and have a lot of expansion plans at their hubs and new airplanes being delivered to accomodate that. SWA still hasn't accelerated the upgrade time. Even if other airlines slow down a bit they are still going to have faster career progression than SWA.

Another thing to consider too is that other airlines got new contracts and their hiring numbers may have dipped a bit but they still need a lot of pilots. We no longer need any for 2024. So why is that? Well, its because SWA isn't expanding. Furthermore SWA leadership really hasn't displayed a vision to expand like the others have. Any plans this airline could make to do anything big would take 3 times longer than other airlines because of the logistics and infastructre needed to carry it out.

It's all that and relying too much on the MAX.

But you are right about the retirements. Those are incredibly slow in comparison to the other airlines.

HalinTexas

Thanks for not hiring me SWA!!!!

#CAAptAAinHAAppy

PipeMan

Do you guys think furloughs are likely?

flyguy81

Not with $12b in cash on hand.

golfandflows

Settle down chicken little

Smooth at FL450

No. but a merger/aquistion sure is.

mulcher

Something needs to be in the works. Grow or die in this business. This is what SWA did last time we acquired an airlines. We can’t get Maxs. We need jets period and growth.