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03-11-2024, 08:39 AM
#321
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It was pretty funny the other day to hear ATL approach berating a SWA pilot descending on the downwind for being "3000 feet higher than everyone else and providing a totally unacceptable descent rate". Shocked he didn't get a phone number because he was screwing up the whole flow. Seems this cocked up technedure you guys have isn't a hit with ATC either.
03-11-2024, 08:46 AM
#322
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: 737
Posts: 384
Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
It was pretty funny the other day to hear ATL approach berating a SWA pilot descending on the downwind for being "3000 feet higher than everyone else and providing a totally unacceptable descent rate". Shocked he didn't get a phone number because he was screwing up the whole flow. Seems this cocked up technedure you guys have isn't a hit with ATC either.
I don't like the procedure, but let's not pretend that this is somehow throwing a wrench in the national airspace system.
03-11-2024, 08:49 AM
#323
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Joined APC: Mar 2023
Posts: 167
Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
flaps only give a couple extra hundred feet in decent rate. If they were 3000 feet higher than everybody else, they were descended late by atc or forgot to descend. Nothing to do with flaps.
03-11-2024, 08:53 AM
#324
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Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,953
Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
flaps only give a couple extra hundred feet in decent rate. If they were 3000 feet higher than everybody else, they were descended late by atc or forgot to descend. Nothing to do with flaps.
I don't like the procedure, but let's not pretend that this is somehow throwing a wrench in the national airspace system.
I don't like the procedure, but let's not pretend that this is somehow throwing a wrench in the national airspace system.
03-11-2024, 10:07 AM
#325
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 956
Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw
It was pretty funny the other day to hear ATL approach berating a SWA pilot descending on the downwind for being "3000 feet higher than everyone else and providing a totally unacceptable descent rate". Shocked he didn't get a phone number because he was screwing up the whole flow. Seems this cocked up technedure you guys have isn't a hit with ATC either.
Give me a crossing restriction and I’ll make it by doing pilot stuff. If I see easy stuff coming like the slam dunk into ONT, I’ll roll the speed back to give myself energy to play. I’m not going to jump through my a$$ to fix their screwups, though.
“Unable.”
Robble Robble Robble.
”Still unable. What would you like us to do?”
03-11-2024, 10:19 AM
#326
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 274
Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
flaps only give a couple extra hundred feet in decent rate. If they were 3000 feet higher than everybody else, they were descended late by atc or forgot to descend. Nothing to do with flaps.
I don't like the procedure, but let's not pretend that this is somehow throwing a wrench in the national airspace system.
I don't like the procedure, but let's not pretend that this is somehow throwing a wrench in the national airspace system.
03-11-2024, 11:01 AM
#327
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Position: 737
Posts: 384
Originally Posted by Liberty
👎 Flaps 5 (sometimes speedbrake) ATL descent is never a problem. Don’t do it, it’s a problem. Absolutely screwing up the system. This stuff isn’t hard.
But 3000 ft high is not because they weren't using flaps/speedbrakes appropriately. My problem is with the bogus story, not with the fact that flaps are drag devices (they are).
03-11-2024, 12:50 PM
#328
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,467
Originally Posted by waterskisabersw
I'm not saying it doesn't help. It does, and I use 1, 2, 10, 25 ALL the time.
But 3000 ft high is not because they weren't using flaps/speedbrakes appropriately. My problem is with the bogus story, not with the fact that flaps are drag devices (they are).
But 3000 ft high is not because they weren't using flaps/speedbrakes appropriately. My problem is with the bogus story, not with the fact that flaps are drag devices (they are).
My favorite (that they no longer do thank god) was the "turn left to 230 at the marker, cleared for takeoff" followed by yelling at you for turning too soon.
How about ATL quits making stuff up? Tell us to expedite descent and we will try, otherwise shut up and do your job.
03-11-2024, 01:09 PM
#329
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 274
Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I love all the secret ATL rules that they just expect everyone to know. "Short approach" means a 10 mile final...ok? Once you are cleared below 5000 that means they want you down NOW!!! Ok?
My favorite (that they no longer do thank god) was the "turn left to 230 at the marker, cleared for takeoff" followed by yelling at you for turning too soon.
How about ATL quits making stuff up? Tell us to expedite descent and we will try, otherwise shut up and do your job.
My favorite (that they no longer do thank god) was the "turn left to 230 at the marker, cleared for takeoff" followed by yelling at you for turning too soon.
How about ATL quits making stuff up? Tell us to expedite descent and we will try, otherwise shut up and do your job.
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