SWA no longer hiring in 2024
02-29-2024, 12:53 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
What is NOT the right thing to do is to not honor your commitments that you made to those with CJOs but no class dates. They should have cut off applications and interviews and brought everybody on who has a CJO.
02-29-2024, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bluespoon
Omg they stopped hiring the rest of the year so the sky must be falling. Bring on mergers and aquistions. You just need to be to be someplace with as much senioirty as possible when the music stops. It's just the name of the game.
And JetBlue just stopped their hiring too 👀
02-29-2024, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CC268
This is a total pipe dream. Lee just talked with this weeks leadership class and said they looked into the A220 and wrote it off. Said it would increase costs by ~35%. Our leadership has no real vision.
Watch what they do, not what they say.
Again, are you new around here?
02-29-2024, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Not with $12b in cash on hand.
02-29-2024, 02:06 PM
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Anybody talking about furloughs or VSP, get real. This is a hiring pause waiting for something to happen. This isn't Covid, the Great Recession, or 9/11 where demand has jumped off a cliff. We are still upgrading for crying out loud, and I can tell you that we don't need the extra captains right now.
Don't take every grain of non-great news like it is some kind of death notice. It is a little dramatic. The aircraft will get here one way or another. Right now it is a wait and see and you and I have zero control over the process.
Don't take every grain of non-great news like it is some kind of death notice. It is a little dramatic. The aircraft will get here one way or another. Right now it is a wait and see and you and I have zero control over the process.
02-29-2024, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
This thread is pretty funny.
It doesn't surprise me that they paused hiring. It's actually going to be much better for the FOs. I was a mid seniority FO when the max got grounded and we kept on hiring in the hopes that Boeing would pull a fast one and get it flying again soon. I can tell you from experience that it was very painful since there we were way overmanned on the FO side and the trip trading and open time market as well as elitt inventory suffered greatly as a result. I would tell captains about it and they had no idea what I was talking about because they weren't in the same predicament. There simply was zero premium flying and very little straight flying to be had. If you didn't fly your line, you probably weren't going to be able to trade into something else worth having.
I think the past few years haven't been too kind to Boeing and trust is pretty much gone at this point after pushing back the 7 about 10 times so far. SWA is in the unenviable position of needing airframes and not being able to get them. I am sure all options are on the table and pausing hiring during that time is the right thing to do.
What is NOT the right thing to do is to not honor your commitments that you made to those with CJOs but no class dates. They should have cut off applications and interviews and brought everybody on who has a CJO.
It doesn't surprise me that they paused hiring. It's actually going to be much better for the FOs. I was a mid seniority FO when the max got grounded and we kept on hiring in the hopes that Boeing would pull a fast one and get it flying again soon. I can tell you from experience that it was very painful since there we were way overmanned on the FO side and the trip trading and open time market as well as elitt inventory suffered greatly as a result. I would tell captains about it and they had no idea what I was talking about because they weren't in the same predicament. There simply was zero premium flying and very little straight flying to be had. If you didn't fly your line, you probably weren't going to be able to trade into something else worth having.
I think the past few years haven't been too kind to Boeing and trust is pretty much gone at this point after pushing back the 7 about 10 times so far. SWA is in the unenviable position of needing airframes and not being able to get them. I am sure all options are on the table and pausing hiring during that time is the right thing to do.
What is NOT the right thing to do is to not honor your commitments that you made to those with CJOs but no class dates. They should have cut off applications and interviews and brought everybody on who has a CJO.
02-29-2024, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Aeronaut55
Agree. A lot of people made life adjustments because they thought they had a class. Like changing important dates, using vacation time. Whatever. Disappointing when the classes got pushed, but canceled a couple months after that. So glad I get to work the year with no vacation now. I know they do what they need to do, but it didn’t feel very “Southwest”
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