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Ok—What’s The New Base?
#101
Ok I see it. Next bullet point is:
Like has been discussed, there may be more than one new base next year. Time will tell. I’m still expecting an announcement for last month…
- Pilot hiring will pick up in 2026, with a return to normalized hiring levels. The major airlines are forecast to hire between 5,000-7,000 Pilots next year.
#102
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#103
On Reserve
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#104
Gets Weekends Off
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[QUOTE=SetMCT;3977130]
This old trope again?
OAK isn't going anywhere. It's our Bay Area anchor. We serve 4 getting ready to be 5 airports in the region that would also make it a great co-terminal if that ever got dusted off. If SWA moved out of that airport, the vacuum would quickly get filled by another operator who would cannibalize SWA customers.
Love that every Texas based SWA pilot has some weird vendetta against the state that probably earns SWA more money than the next 3 biggest states combined. If anything, SAN opening would draw down LAS and LAX. SWA has slowly and silently drawn down LAX departures anyway because it has gotten so expensive to operate out of that particular airport. JetBlue is temporarily squatting on a couple gates since terminal 5 is being rebuilt and the rest are being utilized just enough to keep competitors out.
California has a lot of onerous rules and regulations and a high tax structure, but the biggest, brightest, and best companies still choose to make it their hub, strangely enough. Many of the country's smartest and richest people live there. Until that changes, Southwest will continue to defend their turf there with a vengeance since many of the citizens of that state view Southwest as their high speed transit system.
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In an effort to get this discussion back on topic I will say that SAN is surging down the homestretch after that email today.
Next base is AUS. OAK will be drawn down and closed then SAN will open. Too expensive to open SAN on its own. Either that or OAK closes and SMF becomes a base.
In an effort to get this discussion back on topic I will say that SAN is surging down the homestretch after that email today.
Next base is AUS. OAK will be drawn down and closed then SAN will open. Too expensive to open SAN on its own. Either that or OAK closes and SMF becomes a base.
OAK isn't going anywhere. It's our Bay Area anchor. We serve 4 getting ready to be 5 airports in the region that would also make it a great co-terminal if that ever got dusted off. If SWA moved out of that airport, the vacuum would quickly get filled by another operator who would cannibalize SWA customers.
Love that every Texas based SWA pilot has some weird vendetta against the state that probably earns SWA more money than the next 3 biggest states combined. If anything, SAN opening would draw down LAS and LAX. SWA has slowly and silently drawn down LAX departures anyway because it has gotten so expensive to operate out of that particular airport. JetBlue is temporarily squatting on a couple gates since terminal 5 is being rebuilt and the rest are being utilized just enough to keep competitors out.
California has a lot of onerous rules and regulations and a high tax structure, but the biggest, brightest, and best companies still choose to make it their hub, strangely enough. Many of the country's smartest and richest people live there. Until that changes, Southwest will continue to defend their turf there with a vengeance since many of the citizens of that state view Southwest as their high speed transit system.
#105
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This old trope again?
OAK isn't going anywhere. It's our Bay Area anchor. We serve 4 getting ready to be 5 airports in the region that would also make it a great co-terminal if that ever got dusted off. If SWA moved out of that airport, the vacuum would quickly get filled by another operator who would cannibalize SWA customers.
Love that every Texas based SWA pilot has some weird vendetta against the state that probably earns SWA more money than the next 3 biggest states combined. If anything, SAN opening would draw down LAS and LAX. SWA has slowly and silently drawn down LAX departures anyway because it has gotten so expensive to operate out of that particular airport. JetBlue is temporarily squatting on a couple gates since terminal 5 is being rebuilt and the rest are being utilized just enough to keep competitors out.
California has a lot of onerous rules and regulations and a high tax structure, but the biggest, brightest, and best companies still choose to make it their hub, strangely enough. Many of the country's smartest and richest people live there. Until that changes, Southwest will continue to defend their turf there with a vengeance since many of the citizens of that state view Southwest as their high speed transit system.
hey can you fix your quote? I only said the first half:
“In an effort to get this discussion back on topic I will say that SAN is surging down the homestretch after that email today.”
If you are trying to quote the second half, that was SetMCT.
thanks
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#106
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You seem strangely fixated on an old Air Force base that has been written off for decades since it is a Superfund toxic cleanup site. Did you buy cheap land out there to flip or what?
Yes you can carry live ordnance out of Miramar, what a silly question.
I’ve never heard someone carry on and on about something like this. The Marine Corps seems well situated with grunts, tracks, and artillery at Pendleton and aviation assets at Miramar and Pendleton.
What are you doing in a Southwest forum on a topic about the next domicile anyway, you get drunk and wander off?
Hahaha, next bender let us know ahead of time so we can join ya….. cheers!
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Yes you can carry live ordnance out of Miramar, what a silly question.
I’ve never heard someone carry on and on about something like this. The Marine Corps seems well situated with grunts, tracks, and artillery at Pendleton and aviation assets at Miramar and Pendleton.
What are you doing in a Southwest forum on a topic about the next domicile anyway, you get drunk and wander off?
Hahaha, next bender let us know ahead of time so we can join ya….. cheers!
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#107
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It’s viability as a MILITARY BASE has obviously been written off.
No one wants to live in the housing because of the Superfund toxic cleanup site.
Also, if the airport side is “booming” as you claim then your obsession with moving Miramar out into the desert is entirely irrelevant because there are tenants with long term leases on the land.
You are avoiding the real question though.
What are you doing in the Southwest section, on a discussion about the next domicile, derailing the topic with a weird fascination about an old air force base?
Day drinking is an acceptable answer….. just let us join in!
Shots everytime sailingfun says the name of the derelict air force base….cheers!
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#108
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Also the Marines like having some QOL for their personnel and dependents when off duty, so while they could in theory move to the desert, they're not necessarily falling all over themselves to do so.
#109
weekends off? Nope...
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[QUOTE=e6bpilot;3977189]
This old trope again?
OAK isn't going anywhere. It's our Bay Area anchor. We serve 4 getting ready to be 5 airports in the region that would also make it a great co-terminal if that ever got dusted off. If SWA moved out of that airport, the vacuum would quickly get filled by another operator who would cannibalize SWA customers.
Love that every Texas based SWA pilot has some weird vendetta against the state that probably earns SWA more money than the next 3 biggest states combined. If anything, SAN opening would draw down LAS and LAX. SWA has slowly and silently drawn down LAX departures anyway because it has gotten so expensive to operate out of that particular airport. JetBlue is temporarily squatting on a couple gates since terminal 5 is being rebuilt and the rest are being utilized just enough to keep competitors out.
California has a lot of onerous rules and regulations and a high tax structure, but the biggest, brightest, and best companies still choose to make it their hub, strangely enough. Many of the country's smartest and richest people live there. Until that changes, Southwest will continue to defend their turf there with a vengeance since many of the citizens of that state view Southwest as their high speed transit system.
OAK as a crew base could close without closing the station…and I think SJC has become the anchor, surpassing OAK in RON aircraft or close to it.
This old trope again?
OAK isn't going anywhere. It's our Bay Area anchor. We serve 4 getting ready to be 5 airports in the region that would also make it a great co-terminal if that ever got dusted off. If SWA moved out of that airport, the vacuum would quickly get filled by another operator who would cannibalize SWA customers.
Love that every Texas based SWA pilot has some weird vendetta against the state that probably earns SWA more money than the next 3 biggest states combined. If anything, SAN opening would draw down LAS and LAX. SWA has slowly and silently drawn down LAX departures anyway because it has gotten so expensive to operate out of that particular airport. JetBlue is temporarily squatting on a couple gates since terminal 5 is being rebuilt and the rest are being utilized just enough to keep competitors out.
California has a lot of onerous rules and regulations and a high tax structure, but the biggest, brightest, and best companies still choose to make it their hub, strangely enough. Many of the country's smartest and richest people live there. Until that changes, Southwest will continue to defend their turf there with a vengeance since many of the citizens of that state view Southwest as their high speed transit system.
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