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01-05-2026 | 05:31 AM

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waterskisabersw

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I just don’t see how UAL’s goal is tenable. There aren’t enough people to go around for all the legacies/major airlines. They’ll have to absorb regionals or something if they want to keep hiring 2-4k/year indefinitely.

More importantly, there isn't enough demand to fill enough aircraft for 25k pilots right now, unless some major players go bust.

01-05-2026 | 08:02 AM

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More importantly, there isn't enough demand to fill enough aircraft for 25k pilots right now, unless some major players go bust.

Or gate space. Or airspace.

01-05-2026 | 10:24 AM

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The UA thing is typical Scott Kirby. He relies on grandiose visions, bluster, and wild prognostications as part of his leadership style. He inherited a company that Oscar Muñoz completely turned around, and their trajectory seems to be headed exactly where he wants it to go. Eventually reality will catch up with them. In the meantime, it's going to be a hell if a ride.

They have gambled big on a sustained explosion in air travel. Any little hiccup in the global economy is going to be quite humbling for them. For now, though, it seems to be working out. Building up when everyone else was pulling back during Covid was perhaps the single biggest gamble that any modern airline CEO has made. It worked out...this time.

01-05-2026 | 08:23 PM

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Do you want responses in MLA format? Would you also like footnotes?

Forums are good for exchange of ideas but context and/or sarcasm/humor don’t always translate.

I wasn’t referencing your posts. However, no, I don’t think this forum should appear in the likeness of an English professors’ forum. I just observe things and I find them strange. The nation is going through an odd time and this occupation is certainly unique. 300k for guys that struggle to string a sentence together. The more I think on it, the more it makes perfect sense though. Anyways, just disregard, I wasn’t referencing you at all. Sometimes I share my thoughts when there is no reason to do so.

01-06-2026 | 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

I haven’t flown with a 225 pilot yet (or any 121 pilot mill person) but would be a good way to kill cruise time talking about the pros and cons, etc. I’d guess most wanted to come here from the jump.

I have flown with a couple D225 pilots. Gotta say they were sharp and very pleasant to work with. One of them was a former FA of ours whom I've also flown with when she was a FA. A buddy also went through upgrade with a D225 hire as his FO and same observation - sharp, knowledgable and great to fly with. They have a number of touch points throughout their journey and I believe they're brought to Dallas to fly our sim and get our procedures down well before their initial training, so they generally breeze through training. I think any troubles usually come out before they're on the property.

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I don't either, but I do wish them the best of luck. Some grandiose plans there... For their sakes and ours, I hope they keep growing and hiring even more than they forecast, but even more so, I hope we both remain profitable.

01-06-2026 | 05:17 AM

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Most captains who were saying 225 guys were trash later have flown with them and said they were solid. Funny how assumptions usually are wrong.

01-06-2026 | 06:23 AM

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Most captains who were saying 225 guys were trash later have flown with them and said they were solid. Funny how assumptions usually are wrong.

CA’s here making assumptions later to be proved wrong? Blasphemy. Almost as bad as saying that ops day had anything to do with the senior captains sitting left seat.

All in good fun guys don’t jump down my throat lol. As for the 225 several of them are children of our pilots. They certainly get touch points and most know our flows better than we do lol.