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Old 01-07-2026 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Liberty
It’s a bizarre claim by a few. It’s equivalent to the flat earth group. The idea is that SWA decided on AUS as a crew base because SAT had bad behavior so, in the end, we showed them. If you confront these guys about this odd view, they shift the burden of proof and want you to prove that SAT was not going to be a base. It’s really weird. I don’t know what the motive is to construct this imagination.
what??? You think AUS and SAT negotiations occurred in a vacuum? Crew base decision aside, you’re out of your mind if you think the investment decisions had zero correlation with each other.
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Old 01-07-2026 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot

I doubt SWA is going to do anything that is going to hurt their position in SAT out of spite. That would be incredibly stupid.



SAT airport authority has been spitting in the company’s face for years now.

With limited aircraft numbers, the company can’t service every market at the frequency the traveling public desires.

Network planning pick winners and losers and if the city up I-35 is offering more incentives and the city down I-35 is giving grief then the airplanes get flowed to Austin and our customers in San Antonio end up on Frontier or Delta.

I mean this literally just played out in real time and Austin won more flights.





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Old 01-07-2026 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
SAT airport authority has been spitting in the company’s face for years now.

With limited aircraft numbers, the company can’t service every market at the frequency the traveling public desires.

Network planning pick winners and losers and if the city up I-35 is offering more incentives and the city down I-35 is giving grief then the airplanes get flowed to Austin and our customers in San Antonio end up on Frontier or Delta.

I mean this literally just played out in real time and Austin won more flights.





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oh so you’re a flat earther too? lol

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Old 01-07-2026 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
SAT airport authority has been spitting in the company’s face for years now.

With limited aircraft numbers, the company can’t service every market at the frequency the traveling public desires.

Network planning pick winners and losers and if the city up I-35 is offering more incentives and the city down I-35 is giving grief then the airplanes get flowed to Austin and our customers in San Antonio end up on Frontier or Delta.

I mean this literally just played out in real time and Austin won more flights.
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I very highly doubt that had anything to do with the end decision. These are two stories being convoluted as one. SAT is a valuable market, but they aren't Austin. Both will continue to be big parts of the network. SWA lost in SAT. They won in AUS. Those things happened independently and for different reasons. They would have loved a win in both places, but it wasn't to be.
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Old 01-07-2026 | 08:37 PM
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So WN is going from 10 to 18 gates? I thought they were getting 18 gates in the new Concourse and keeping the 10 they had in the BJT for a total of 28 gates. That’s the same number of gates as DAL and less than HOU currently has. How is this supposed to be the biggest WN operation in the state of Texas as was being talked about up in Dallas?
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Old 01-08-2026 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I very highly doubt that had anything to do with the end decision. These are two stories being convoluted as one. SAT is a valuable market, but they aren't Austin. Both will continue to be big parts of the network. SWA lost in SAT. They won in AUS. Those things happened independently and for different reasons. They would have loved a win in both places, but it wasn't to be.


It happened right before our eyes, can’t you see it?

Southwest had a choice of where to allocate a large number of daily flights into and out of Texas and it chose Austin over San Antonio.

In other words as the years go by Austin is getting MORE flights on SWA and SAT is getting LESS.

None of us were in the room when these decisions were made, but the outcome is obvious.



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Old 01-08-2026 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna

None of us were in the room when these decisions were made

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This we can agree on. I will concede that I may be completely off the mark if you will. SWA would have loved a win in both places. It wasn't one vs the other.
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Old 01-08-2026 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
This we can agree on. I will concede that I may be completely off the mark if you will. SWA would have loved a win in both places. It wasn't one vs the other.


Maybe….. but we are already reducing frequency across the network due to lack of aircraft so every addition is a defacto reduction somewhere else.

We don’t have the aircraft to fly everywhere.

Network planning clearly chose Austin over San Antonio.



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Old 01-08-2026 | 02:29 PM
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oh so you’re a flat earther too? lol

Every time anyone asks me if the earth is flat, I tell them absolutely.


Then again I pitch the contrail conspiracy
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Old 01-08-2026 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Maybe….. but we are already reducing frequency across the network due to lack of aircraft so every addition is a defacto reduction somewhere else.

We don’t have the aircraft to fly everywhere.

Network planning clearly chose Austin over San Antonio.



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I think capacity discipline has finally arrived, at least for a little bit. I doubt more airplanes are wanted or needed. I expect the fleet next summer to be maybe a few airplanes fatter than we are now with 700s starting their swan song. I guess if you consider 700 down time, that is growth in ASMs. It seems like you can't fly one 3 legs any more without a call to mx.
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