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03-12-2026 | 09:08 PM
#81
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Unfortunately unlike the bus we don't get the little chirp when the mode changes. I found that useful a few times going in to LAS about 8 yrs ago when brand yellow was having trouble with the nav database and arrivals wouldn't connect up with the approaches properly, so you'd get a vnav disconnect at some point during the arrival or approach. Chirp chirp WTF is it doing NOW? is way better than whoop whoop terrain terrain pull up pull up (also brand yellow into vegas about 8 yrs ago).
03-12-2026 | 09:40 PM
#82
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
Unfortunately unlike the bus we don't get the little chirp when the mode changes. I found that useful a few times going in to LAS about 8 yrs ago when brand yellow was having trouble with the nav database and arrivals wouldn't connect up with the approaches properly, so you'd get a vnav disconnect at some point during the arrival or approach. Chirp chirp WTF is it doing NOW? is way better than whoop whoop terrain terrain pull up pull up (also brand yellow into vegas about 8 yrs ago).
03-12-2026 | 09:44 PM
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03-13-2026 | 01:53 AM
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All valid points. Looking at the FMA was taught back in my regional and even during my corporate jet days. I get the intent…but effort is required in both seats.
One thing I liked about this years CQ was the demo for pitch using thrust only. They line you up on final in VMC for a landing using only lateral control and only thrust for pitch changes. It’s a solid demo.
I’ve noticed several very young/low time jet people in the right seat (it’s gotten better in the last two years) that make drastic thrust changes for what should be a minor correction and they saw the throttle quadrant all the way to the flare (think of sawing a log). Nothing I like more than to be at ref at 150’ with thrust idle followed by a push to 90%.
The level change issue on RNAV stuff is still an issue. The PM verbiage “did you want level change?” usually solves the problem, but it’s an issue.
One thing I liked about this years CQ was the demo for pitch using thrust only. They line you up on final in VMC for a landing using only lateral control and only thrust for pitch changes. It’s a solid demo.
I’ve noticed several very young/low time jet people in the right seat (it’s gotten better in the last two years) that make drastic thrust changes for what should be a minor correction and they saw the throttle quadrant all the way to the flare (think of sawing a log). Nothing I like more than to be at ref at 150’ with thrust idle followed by a push to 90%.
The level change issue on RNAV stuff is still an issue. The PM verbiage “did you want level change?” usually solves the problem, but it’s an issue.
03-13-2026 | 04:41 AM
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This is what happens amongst years long sim instructors. They no longer fly outside of a sim, they get bored, they come up with “cool idea” sim-isms that “must be shown” to the actual line pilots. Normally things that aren’t going to help in 99% of actual conditions. Here, we have two guys that walked away with polar opposite takeaways. Why? Because it was probably a silly “can you do what I can do in this sim?” This is something every training facility must manage. If it’s allowed to get out of control, we end up spending a whole extra day in training.
03-13-2026 | 04:58 AM
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This is what happens amongst years long sim instructors. They no longer fly outside of a sim, they get bored, they come up with “cool idea” sim-isms that “must be shown” to the actual line pilots. Normally things that aren’t going to help in 99% of actual conditions. Here, we have two guys that walked away with polar opposite takeaways. Why? Because it was probably a silly “can you do what I can do in this sim?” This is something every training facility must manage. If it’s allowed to get out of control, we end up spending a whole extra day in training.
Got it ....
03-13-2026 | 05:07 AM
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03-13-2026 | 06:48 AM
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