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Old 07-11-2012 | 02:02 PM
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Old 07-11-2012 | 02:33 PM
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Any yet here you are.

Still waiting for you to list some of the goodies you alluded to earlier.

What does someone getting hired at SWA have to with any AirTran pilots? Please tell me that you are not insinuating that because of a MERGER we are getting hired at SWA? You guys can't really be that pompous in your attitudes, right?
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Old 07-11-2012 | 02:54 PM
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The open time and sick accrual systems. You know....the ones that the company is coming after.
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Old 07-11-2012 | 03:01 PM
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What does someone getting hired at SWA have to with any AirTran pilots? Please tell me that you are not insinuating that because of a MERGER we are getting hired at SWA? You guys can't really be that pompous in your attitudes, right?
WM, you really do live in a different world. I am frankly tired of dealing with your s..... Please remember this..... It is not your seat, it is no longer your relative seniority, and you can whine and pitch a hissy till the day you die. As I said in a previous post it is just that simple. You call those at SWA pompous and yet you fail to look in the mirror every morning and fail to realize you sound very pompous yourself.

Respond to my post (#45 in the SWA raises in 13 and 14 ) or please just crawl up in your self imposed misery/self pity and faid away. I am not going anywhere, you however will go somewhere else or come over and have to shut your pie hole. No one cares any more.

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Old 07-11-2012 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by NimbusSurfer
I'm on first year pay ($50/trip), on probation and all AT (plus all but about 40 SWA) pilots are senior to me...and I'm damn happy and humbled to be here.
A guy I talked to who was MCO based in the "bottom 368"(?) at SWA said he had 1100 AirTran guys senior to him. He said he was 47 years old, and he didn't think he would ever upgrade. Very disgruntled about the merger.
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Old 07-11-2012 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The open time and sick accrual systems. You know....the ones that the company is coming after.
I don't think the company is doing anything but negotiating. I don't let it bother me.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by OscartheGrouch
WM, you really do live in a different world. I am frankly tired of dealing with your s..... Please remember this..... It is not your seat, it is no longer your relative seniority, and you can whine and pitch a hissy till the day you die. As I said in a previous post it is just that simple. You call those at SWA pompous and yet you fail to look in the mirror every morning and fail to realize you sound very pompous yourself.

Respond to my post (#45 in the SWA raises in 13 and 14 ) or please just crawl up in your self imposed misery/self pity and faid away. I am not going anywhere, you however will go somewhere else or come over and have to shut your pie hole. No one cares any more.

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You've got a lot of nerve telling me to "get over it". For that matter ANY SWA pilot's got a lot of nerve telling ANY AirTran pilot the same. Talk about arrogant.

Big Daddy GK holds us down for the raping and then you tell us to "get over it". Unbelievable. I suggest you start doing what I'm about to start doing.......ignoring you.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lumberg
A guy I talked to who was MCO based in the "bottom 368"(?) at SWA said he had 1100 AirTran guys senior to him. He said he was 47 years old, and he didn't think he would ever upgrade. Very disgruntled about the merger.
Disgruntled? Um, did you kindly remind him that SWA was stagnant as far as growth goes before the merger? Their own CEO publically stated that they needed to buy us inorder to grow again. We on the other hand were still growing granted at a reduced rate.

If anything this should help his relative seniority. If he was in the bottom 368 (out of about 5900 original SWA pilots), he just got 1,100 AirTran pilots put on top of him and another 635 AirTran pilots put underneath him. Run the numbers, he just moved up in relative seniority, not to mention the growth opportunities that the merger has created for his new airline.

-5,900 original SWA pilots...if he was 368 from the bottom that puts him at 5,532 or 93.7% relative seniority before the merger.

- 7,950 pilots on the new list which includes both AirTran and SWA new-hires. If he had 1,100 AirTran pilots put above him then there were 635 left over which were put below him, so his new position should be about 6,632 out of 7,950 making his new relative seniority 83.4%.

Yeah, he's got a lot to ***** about moving up 10% in relative seniority. Maybe he needs a little reminder that he probably wouldn't have upgraded anyway at a standalone SWA. If he was in the bottom 368 of their list premerger that means that he was basically a new-hire. He just got over a third of the AirTran pilots put behind him and he's still *****ing?

Not suprised. Typical SWA mentality.
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Old 07-12-2012 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Seat 1Engine
I don't think the company is doing anything but negotiating. I don't let it bother me.
So you're confident that a concessionary contract will not pass?
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Old 07-12-2012 | 01:09 PM
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Their own CEO publically stated that they needed to buy us inorder to grow again.
I wont go into to much detail, but there is plenty of foder from your ex ceo thats supports the Tranny wasnt going to be doing so well. Also why do you think our growth was put on hold? Was it to may be purchase somebody?Hmmmm!

One thing is for sure. You are a piece of work. If you are so miserable go find another job. I am not a dont like leave person at all. I am just saying if you are that unhappy you will die an earlier death if you dont find something else.
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