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Old 04-25-2013, 10:18 AM
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Transport Workers Union Local 555 > Home reported today that ATL is overstaffed by 300 agents who are covered by the IAM. These agents have the option to relocated to another SWA station or leave the company. SWA also announced closing PROVO in the following cities. SLC, ELP and PHL. the provo closing is slated for July 31, 2013 but no date was set for the overstaffing condition in ATL.
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This is pretty disappointing . . . The Rampers in ATL actually do a GOOD job . . . . been that way since about 2006. Letting a large number of them go seems like a mistake. . . . Hope these guys in DAL know what they're doing.
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This is pretty disappointing . . . The Rampers in ATL actually do a GOOD job . . . . been that way since about 2006. Letting a large number of them go seems like a mistake. . . . Hope these guys in DAL know what they're doing.
How do the "guys in DAL" impact this announcement?
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This is pretty disappointing . . . The Rampers in ATL actually do a GOOD job . . . . been that way since about 2006. Letting a large number of them go seems like a mistake. . . . Hope these guys in DAL know what they're doing.
No one is being "let go". They have all been offered positions in other departments and/or stations. Not optimum, I agree, but better than a furlough notice. Bottom line is the bottom line: the ATL is being de-hubbed and staffed for how SWA runs their larger stations: i.e., more efficiently than having to staff for banks of flights throughout the day, followed by long periods with lots of folks sitting around with little to do. Large SWA stations are more linear in the number of flights throughout the day...a de-peaked hub, if you will.

I've seen some other decisions recently from the "guys in DAL" that make me wonder what they are thinking, but this isn't one of them.
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Originally Posted by Gomerglideslope View Post
How do the "guys in DAL" impact this announcement?

(K)DAL as in Dallas, ie SWA management, not DAL as in Delta.
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The employees have an option to apply for open positions or will be given severance packages.
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Originally Posted by Smokey23 View Post
No one is being "let go". They have all been offered positions in other departments and/or stations. Not optimum, I agree, but better than a furlough notice. Bottom line is the bottom line: the ATL is being de-hubbed and staffed for how SWA runs their larger stations: i.e., more efficiently than having to staff for banks of flights throughout the day, followed by long periods with lots of folks sitting around with little to do. Large SWA stations are more linear in the number of flights throughout the day...a de-peaked hub, if you will.

I've seen some other decisions recently from the "guys in DAL" that make me wonder what they are thinking, but this isn't one of them.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to just convert some/most of the ATL guys on the AirTran side who are already there? Instead of bringing in SWA people and push out the ones who have run that place to the best of its ability? Yes it is good that they are being offered other options but at the same time, it's pretty sh**ty to be somewhere and run a beautiful operation and then get told "hey, you're going to have to move somewhere else to keep a job". Of course, none of this has happened to any of the SWA employees and I doubt that it ever will. Whether its necessary or not, it seems like another example of: 1) Pooping on the new guys to make room for your own guys. 2) This deal is WAY over SWA's head. I'm not surprised in the least.
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Wouldn't it have made more sense to just convert some/most of the ATL guys on the AirTran side who are already there? Instead of bringing in SWA people and push out the ones who have run that place to the best of its ability?
To hear your version, it's as if the ATL will be soon be staffed with a bunch of SWA imports, while the original ATN folks are given the bum's rush out of ATL? Maybe I missed it, but who are you hearing that from?

Yes it is good that they are being offered other options but at the same time, it's pretty sh**ty to be somewhere and run a beautiful operation and then get told "hey, you're going to have to move somewhere else to keep a job".
It's my understanding that once it has been realigned to SWA's planned staffing, there will simply be too many ground ops people for not enough positions at the ATL station, hence the reduced headcount and offers for employment at other SWA stations. Again, I don't know where you're hearing about some mass influx of SWA employees pushing out the ATN employees.

Of course, none of this has happened to any of the SWA employees and I doubt that it ever will. Whether its necessary or not, it seems like another example of: 1) Pooping on the new guys to make room for your own guys. 2) This deal is WAY over SWA's head. I'm not surprised in the least.
I don't know what more I can add beyond 1) Make sure you have your facts straight before going off on such a tirade; or 2) Posting while drunk is seldom a good idea.
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
(K)DAL as in Dallas, ie SWA management, not DAL as in Delta.
Thanks....I guess. I know everything on APC is ultimately about Delta, but do you really think anyone else here needed to have that clarified, besides you?
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Originally Posted by Smokey23 View Post
"Thanks....I guess. I know everything on APC is ultimately about Delta,"
...good, we're glad you're catching on here...lets stop trying to hijack this thread by posting stuff about SWA....

but do you really think anyone else here needed to have that clarified, besides you?
-just off hand...I also got the impression Gomer was confused about the meaning of DAL...since there are probably more Delta readers of this thread than SWA, possibly many more needed that clarification...perhaps hundreds...nay...thousands more needed it....although for quite obvious reasons having to do with retrospectively applied, deductive Aristotelian syllogistic logic...Justdoin' and I, being well-versed in the intricate acronymic trivia of Dallas-area airports, -should not be counted among those needing said clarification...
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