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09-19-2015, 11:07 AM
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Swa ta
Well, it's finally here. Let's discuss it. I'm a solid NO vote. Here's the short list why:
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
09-19-2015, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
Well, it's finally here. Let's discuss it. I'm a solid NO vote. Here's the short list why:
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
What SWA is proposing is taking our code share( only they really know what that's worth) for 1.6% annual raises, sub market rate retirement and at risk profit sharing.
The best thing about this TA is how easy it is to select No as my vote
09-19-2015, 12:30 PM
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Oh and then there's this:
Memorandum of Understanding
It is hereby understood and agreed, by and between Southwest Airlines Co. and Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, that upon ratification of the Parties’ new collective bargaining agreement, the Parties through their designated representatives will initiate a joint study of the feasibility of an alternative automated bidding system. Upon completion of their joint study, the designated representatives will make recommendations to their respective organizations.
Looks like PBS in disguise to me.
Memorandum of Understanding
It is hereby understood and agreed, by and between Southwest Airlines Co. and Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, that upon ratification of the Parties’ new collective bargaining agreement, the Parties through their designated representatives will initiate a joint study of the feasibility of an alternative automated bidding system. Upon completion of their joint study, the designated representatives will make recommendations to their respective organizations.
Looks like PBS in disguise to me.
09-19-2015, 12:43 PM
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I'm fairly confident that it'll go down, but I just hope it goes down in a huge ball of flames (a la the FA 87% NO vote) so as to send a message to management that they're not even close to offering what we'll accept.
Then once it does it's time to start pulling out the USA Today ads and start punching them in the eye. The biggest thing we have going for us is a management that is ultra sensitive to bad press about their precious airline.
Then once it does it's time to start pulling out the USA Today ads and start punching them in the eye. The biggest thing we have going for us is a management that is ultra sensitive to bad press about their precious airline.
09-19-2015, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
Oh and then there's this:
Memorandum of Understanding
It is hereby understood and agreed, by and between Southwest Airlines Co. and Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, that upon ratification of the Parties’ new collective bargaining agreement, the Parties through their designated representatives will initiate a joint study of the feasibility of an alternative automated bidding system. Upon completion of their joint study, the designated representatives will make recommendations to their respective organizations.
Looks like PBS in disguise to me.
Memorandum of Understanding
It is hereby understood and agreed, by and between Southwest Airlines Co. and Southwest Airlines Pilots’ Association, that upon ratification of the Parties’ new collective bargaining agreement, the Parties through their designated representatives will initiate a joint study of the feasibility of an alternative automated bidding system. Upon completion of their joint study, the designated representatives will make recommendations to their respective organizations.
Looks like PBS in disguise to me.
09-19-2015, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Sr. Barco
Well, it's finally here. Let's discuss it. I'm a solid NO vote. Here's the short list why:
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
1) Weak bonus. Really? $16,000 for a topped out Captain!? The company is buying BILLIONS in stock and they can only give us $125m for a bonus? It needs to be doubled.
2) Weak 401k match. It's only 10% and it's a match. The other 3 legacies are getting a 15-16% contribution.
3) International codeshare relief which gives swapa the ability to waive protections in the contract. I don't trust SWAPA
What are you voting?
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