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Old 09-19-2016, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Salukidawg View Post
3300...after the JetBlue acquisition announcement.
I've been saying it for a while now and am fairly confident that they're going to make another play for JBA. Yes....another, as they already tried twice unsuccessfully before the AirTran fiasco was consummated.
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:22 AM
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You're funny Zap!

It is absolutely impossible for Southwest Airlines to train anywhere other than Dallas, Texas.

The space time continuum would implode at the mere mention of such heresy.
Yeah seriously. You do realize that the JBA facility in MCO does not fall under "Herb time", right Zap?
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Old 09-19-2016, 10:30 AM
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That depends on who you ask and their perspective. There were certainly some positives that came out of it for SWA as a company specifically.
As an outsider looking in...it seems like the Air Tran purchase was the catalysts for LUV's downhill slide into becoming just another airline. Culture is evaporating, the koolaid is wearing thin, labor unrest has reared its ugly head, rapid movement has come screeching to a halt. Maybe the bean counters are happy...no wait, isn't he gone now?
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Old 09-19-2016, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer View Post
As an outsider looking in...it seems like the Air Tran purchase was the catalysts for LUV's downhill slide into becoming just another airline. Culture is evaporating, the koolaid is wearing thin, labor unrest has reared its ugly head, rapid movement has come screeching to a halt. Maybe the bean counters are happy...no wait, isn't he gone now?
Well, you're talking to a former AirTran 7+ year cptn who lost his seat and roughly a third of his relative seniority. For me it IS just another airline and they can take their CULTure and koolaid and flush them down the toilet for all I care.
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER View Post
Well, you're talking to a former AirTran 7+ year cptn who lost his seat and roughly a third of his relative seniority. For me it IS just another airline and they can take their CULTure and koolaid and flush them down the toilet for all I care.
Yea, I never would have guessed. You can take the tranny out of the ghetto, how does that go again?
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Old 09-19-2016, 06:39 PM
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Spoke with Rocky about a few weeks ago. He said they planning on 630 or so. He said they would hire more but thats all the sim time they had.
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Old 09-20-2016, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Here's better question. Why the frak do we need 18 simulators for in the new building when we only have 11 now?
Prior to AirTran swa had about 5500 pilots, 8300 now. Prior to CQT recurrent was only 1 sim, now it's 2. New hires used to have type ratings, most don't these days and the syllabus is expanding although I don't know by how much yet. Add in all increased hiring and upgrades that need several sims each and you get the picture.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer View Post
As an outsider looking in...it seems like the Air Tran purchase was the catalysts for LUV's downhill slide into becoming just another airline. Culture is evaporating, the koolaid is wearing thin, labor unrest has reared its ugly head, rapid movement has come screeching to a halt. Maybe the bean counters are happy...no wait, isn't he gone now?

I'm sure it had nothing to do with Management and contract negotiations! Only difference between Airtran management and Southwest management is the current CEO dresses in drag more often and is averse to any technology upgrades.
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotgolfer View Post
As an outsider looking in...it seems like the Air Tran purchase was the catalysts for LUV's downhill slide into becoming just another airline. Culture is evaporating, the koolaid is wearing thin, labor unrest has reared its ugly head, rapid movement has come screeching to a halt. Maybe the bean counters are happy...no wait, isn't he gone now?
The slide started long before ATN was even a glimmer in GK's eye. More like about 2006...Redefining Excellence--the rollout of an accountants vision for how an airline should be run. It has just taken a while for that vision to be fully implemented, but we are certainly there now.
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Originally Posted by Stitches View Post
Prior to AirTran swa had about 5500 pilots, 8300 now. Prior to CQT recurrent was only 1 sim, now it's 2. New hires used to have type ratings, most don't these days and the syllabus is expanding although I don't know by how much yet. Add in all increased hiring and upgrades that need several sims each and you get the picture.
This is a plausible reason for 18 sims but last week in AQP they told the class that SWA will have 11,000 pilots in the next 3-5 years. I really don't believe they could train a net of 3,000 pilots in the next 3-5 years. The training department is under staffed now and struggling to keep who they have. Plus they'll be in competition with the 3 legacies for pilots. So are they lying to us or is there a merger/buyout in the works with an airline that has about 3,000 pilots? Maybe with an airline that placed an order for 60 airframes about the same time SWA deferred the delivery of 60 airframes? Time will tell.
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