Company Award to expelled Pilot
03-09-2017 | 05:03 PM
#62
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From: CA
I'm the first officer receiving this award.
please fact check a little before making possible damaging comments fellow airmen.
First: I'm receiving an award for playing my ukulele for pax during a gate delay. We should always take care of our pax. This has nothing to do with company or union issues.
Second: the dues I owe amount to $60 and are from a previous airline. The situation is a misunderstanding and is being rectified. I have paid 100% of my spirit union dues!
So again fact check before you start your rants boys.
please fact check a little before making possible damaging comments fellow airmen.
First: I'm receiving an award for playing my ukulele for pax during a gate delay. We should always take care of our pax. This has nothing to do with company or union issues.
Second: the dues I owe amount to $60 and are from a previous airline. The situation is a misunderstanding and is being rectified. I have paid 100% of my spirit union dues!
So again fact check before you start your rants boys.
03-10-2017 | 06:34 AM
#66
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Guys, I have a question or two. With how slow the company is dragging out negotiations, why is the union not exercising more options with our pilot group on how to put pressure on the company from different directions. Including using the pilot to pilot call system and "suggest" only to fly your line, NOBODY on the "standing availability list", don't answer your phone or better, answer your phone and "Just Say NO". Ask for RETRO pay in this contract, etc. only if we affect their bottom line will the company take us seriously I believe. Just a thought.
03-10-2017 | 06:39 AM
#67
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Guys, I have a question or two. With how slow the company is dragging out negotiations, why is the union not exercising more options with our pilot group on how to put pressure on the company from different directions. Including using the pilot to pilot call system and "suggest" only to fly your line, NOBODY on the "standing availability list", don't answer your phone or better, answer your phone and "Just Say NO". Ask for RETRO pay in this contract, etc. only if we affect their bottom line will the company take us seriously I believe. Just a thought.
Did you listen to the all pilot call? Or try and ask during one of them?
I think those questions will be more accurately answered by a member of the NC rather than an APC forum.
03-10-2017 | 06:59 AM
#68
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Guys, I have a question or two. With how slow the company is dragging out negotiations, why is the union not exercising more options with our pilot group on how to put pressure on the company from different directions. Including using the pilot to pilot call system and "suggest" only to fly your line, NOBODY on the "standing availability list", don't answer your phone or better, answer your phone and "Just Say NO". Ask for RETRO pay in this contract, etc. only if we affect their bottom line will the company take us seriously I believe. Just a thought.
2) The company would sue the union in a second if language like that was used.
If you were on the call you may remember a pilot simply saying something like "pilots need to do more individually" which brought on the ALPA lawyers reminding everyone that in no way does that suggest any action to disrupt the operations of the company.
I think the company would love nothing more than to catch the MEC slipping by offering something up that may be taken as tampering, as then sue the union to further drag out talks and use it against us towards the mediator.
But like Iflyhi said, call the NC. I spoke to them when I had questions and they are much more likely to give you the info you want.
03-10-2017 | 09:04 AM
#69
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Good intentions, but misguided...did you cause the delay? Did we underpaid pilots cause the delay? Was it our labor group responsible for inconveniencing our PAYING customers who stipend management's poor performance? They will receive a better product, better service, and greater reliability, routes, on time performance, and attention to detail when the people RESPONSIBLE for the delay are held accountable by every party involved in this product. If you are a dues paying member, then act like a member of OUR group, who is being beaten by the opponent and need exemplary efforts like yours, towards OUR cause. Maybe play at SPA sponsored event, or translate that effort towards benefiting yourself by participating in negotiating an appropriate collective bargained agreement.
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