Originally Posted by Dutch1 (Post 2361507)

I'm also not a Spirit pilot. So here's my stupid question: can pilots be junior assigned on an off day or is it purely voluntary? I ask this because one of the "news" articles reported you are "snubbing your nose at junior assignments on off days." And I'm well aware of the limitations of "journalist's" understanding of our contracts.

Originally Posted by Chimpy (Post 2361511)

Completely Voluntary.

Originally Posted by Dutch1 (Post 2361523)

Then don't pick up if you don't want to.

Originally Posted by Beans (Post 2361040)

Guys/Gals im on your side for getting a raise. I fly for a major US carrier and did my time at a ULCC. The point im trying to make is have realistic expectations. You are at a ULCC and profitable bc of the lower wages than the legacies. Remember this goes far beyond the pilots. The office folks are paid and stafed at a much lower rate as well as gate and ramp personel. If they were to go in and raise wages to UAL or DAL wages for all workers the ship would sink just do the math. The pilots contract alone would cut over 1 billion in profits out of the company over 5 years. Throw in all the other employees wage increases in and you no longer are profitable. Thats the point of being a ULCC and being able to price flights cheep. A big airline makes a much smaller profit but does it on a massive scale with infinit routes so they can offset the smaller margin. I have numerous buds still at Spirit and they went their knowing it was a stepping stone and are getting out. You want big airline wages go to a big airline. When you were hired you knew what Spirit was so to say its a legacy comparable with wages is just an absolute blunder.

Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2361551)

It amazes me that in this country a court can force you to fly on your days off. It's like we live in Saudi Arabia minus the beheadings.

Originally Posted by terminal (Post 2361556)

This is the dumbest thing I've heard all week.
Guys, ignore the stooges like this guy. Keep making your personal QOL decisions on your days off and
Good luck. When's the next picket? I want to walk with you.

Originally Posted by Xtreme87 (Post 2361551)

Yea, being sued by management would definitely motivate me to go above the bare minimum...LOL eat $hit you greedy f*cks. < --- not a spirit employee.

It amazes me that in this country a court can force you to fly on your days off. It's like we live in Saudi Arabia minus the beheadings.

Originally Posted by full of luv (Post 2361030)

It's part of the double whammy the group suffers when contract negotiations have stalled for so long, due to the lagging rates pilots start to pick up more and more time to fill in the wholes of their income.

At some point the group finally gets fed up with the realization there is no longer a "negotiation" going on and all of a sudden stop filling in all the holes of the schedule.

On the surface, looks like a "work action" to an outsider, person left at the gate when the flight is cancelled, to a judge who gets a handful of selected posts as evidence from a company who chooses to make an enemy of labor, to a press who will complicity read any press release from the company as if it's fact.

Stay strong NK pilots, you fly the same Airbus product thousands of other US pilots fly on a daily basis, to the same airports as they do, with more people on board then they have with arguably less support from your company than they have. What NK chooses to charge for tickets, what NK chooses to do with all of it's profits is purely NK management's decision. Your job description and compensation in the industry is pretty well defined at this point.