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VIRotate 01-05-2020 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Yourrid (Post 2951803)
Is anyone currently in initial training?

Yeeeaapppp

Yourrid 01-05-2020 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by VIRotate (Post 2951851)
Yeeeaapppp

My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.

phly 01-05-2020 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Yourrid (Post 2951886)
My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.

It is over studying for sure. They send you home for 9 days to do CBTs and there are only (about) 36 of them.

Any CBT you do on Sum Total won't be credited towards your CBTs in class. They are different CBTs, done on the Ipad with a different software.

PilotMechanic 01-05-2020 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Yourrid (Post 2951886)
My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.


Yeah, I agree, don’t study systems until they send you home on week three. Just study flows, limitations and memory items till then.

SlimBob 01-05-2020 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Yourrid (Post 2951886)
My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.

Stop now. Focus on flows, limitations, and memory items until you're blue in the face. Then find AOM v2 on SumTotal and study the expanded normals on the same flows. Do not study systems until you're done with CPTs.

Yourrid 01-05-2020 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by phly (Post 2951899)
It is over studying for sure. They send you home for 9 days to do CBTs and there are only (about) 36 of them.

Any CBT you do on Sum Total won't be credited towards your CBTs in class. They are different CBTs, done on the Ipad with a different software.


Originally Posted by PilotMechanic (Post 2951909)
Yeah, I agree, don’t study systems until they send you home on week three. Just study flows, limitations and memory items till then.

Thanks for the info! The SumTotal log in instructions came with the Pilot Welcome Package and it had all of the CBTs listed. Even has a recommended order to follow. It didn't explicitly say to do them prior to class, so I wasn't sure.

There are about 35 modules/documents in there already. I'll get the important stuff memorized for sure.

Any tips or things you'd do differently prior to starting class?

VIRotate 01-05-2020 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by Yourrid (Post 2951886)
My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.

Don't even waste your time on systems stuff as others have said.

1. Flows
2. Flows
3. Flows
4. Limitations/memory items

In that order. The ones who struggle the most don’t have a good grip on the flows. Don’t worry there are no tests during Indoc. So while you should have 80-100% of memory items and limitations down day 1, don’t sweat it if you are still fine tuning it. Those are important for the oral. Flows will determine how well you progress. If you want to go above and beyond and have a good feel for the flows, start reading AOM 2 and understanding what you are doing when you are performing the flows. For the first 2 weeks or so it’s just muscle memory. So really don’t stress it.

If you have flows, memory items, limitations down day 1, don’t really have any advice. You already well ahead of the game. Then when it comes to systems and you start connecting the dots, it really clicks.

Slowhawk 01-05-2020 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by SlimBob (Post 2951947)
Stop now. Focus on flows, limitations, and memory items until you're blue in the face. Then find AOM v2 on SumTotal and study the expanded normals on the same flows. Do not study systems until you're done with CPTs.

This is EXACTLY what you need to do. Flows especially. Know them cold. I didn’t do the sumtotal CBTs, almost none of us did. The first week is death by PowerPoint, but by week 2 you must know the flows and limitations/memory items by heart. Reading through the AOM2 normal procedures will be a massive help, too. They’ll give you an iPad on day 1 that has proper CBTs.

Flows flows flows.

senecacaptain 01-05-2020 07:43 PM

I heard Spirit was looking at adopting the AQP program, is this still planned.

Thank you

KCJake 01-05-2020 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by senecacaptain (Post 2952128)
I heard Spirit was looking at adopting the AQP program, is this still planned.

Thank you

They have started rolling out for certain things. I think recurrents are first.


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