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Originally Posted by symbian simian
(Post 2495419)
I honestly don't know what they do for selecting pilots, but I think it's just a phone interview, no other tests...
There's a "talent assessment" sent to applicants but that could just be a 2 part "currently breathing and in possession of an ATP" checklist. |
Originally Posted by FML666
(Post 2495644)
Was that new hire or upgrade OE? I've heard conflicting stories.
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And it might not be a discussion appropriate for these forums.
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Originally Posted by lowandslow
(Post 2495656)
If you have conflicting stories why do you assume so much in the last 2 sentences?
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Originally Posted by Deathwish
(Post 2495667)
And it might not be a discussion appropriate for these forums.
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
(Post 2495266)
Was this recently?
Rumors always get ridiculous and everything I've seen on here is completely wrong so far. |
Originally Posted by FML666
(Post 2495671)
Because the only conflicting information I've heard is in regards to which seat the OE recipient was in.
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
(Post 2493413)
There is no cut and dry reason people succeed here other than being very prepared on day 1.
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Originally Posted by AllOva736
(Post 2495341)
I believe it was on takeoff at LGA about a month ago.
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Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.
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Originally Posted by Super EZ E
(Post 2497137)
Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.
Airmanship=0 |
Originally Posted by Super EZ E
(Post 2497137)
Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.
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Originally Posted by Lemon Jello
(Post 2497372)
Make you guys feel better to drag another pilot group into the discussion about our training/hiring deficiencies?
I will admit, it does give me a wee bit of solace knowing that we’re not the only ones boogering up **** or dinging aluminum... |
Originally Posted by Lemon Jello
(Post 2497372)
Make you guys feel better to drag another pilot group into the discussion about our training/hiring deficiencies?
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Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 2497373)
I presume the point was, it can happen anywhere. Though, when considered in a proportional context, it’s more prevalent here... Hope this helps. :o
I will admit, it does give me a wee bit of solace knowing that we’re not the only ones boogering up **** or dinging aluminum... |
https://tpc.googlesyndication.com/si...86552198043277watch me!!!!
I can do it! this is the ad at the bottom of this website.....:eek: |
Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by SmoothRide
(Post 2499392)
Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks! |
Originally Posted by SmoothRide
(Post 2499392)
Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks! |
It would definitely be easier for you if you had a car, however. It would just give you that much more freedom. (Grocery runs, eating out, coffee stops in the morning, etc)
But be warned that you could get sent to DFW or Vegas for your sims. New hire I just flew with drove down from up north only to have his sim in DFW. |
Okay good to know about the possibility of doing the sim elsewhere.
Thanks Guys!! |
Originally Posted by Tranquility
(Post 2497373)
I presume the point was, it can happen anywhere. Though, when considered in a proportional context, it’s more prevalent here...
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Originally Posted by flyboyike
(Post 2501350)
I don't know that it is, I haven't seen any credible statistics to that effect. Then again, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics...
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"You can prove anything with statistics." - My Dad. (Or maybe someone else that once said it to him, I don't know.)
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Originally Posted by king10pin02
(Post 2493103)
its a self study style course where you have to learn both seats and checkride in the left seat, followed by ioe all in the right seat. plenty of 135 guys here but they were at a disadvatage compared to 121 experienced crews, especially compared to e170/175 crews
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Originally Posted by Treebug
(Post 2927436)
How much of an advantage is it coming from a 175? The self study concept makes me a little nervous.
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Originally Posted by Treebug
(Post 2927436)
How much of an advantage is it coming from a 175? The self study concept makes me a little nervous.
When you get to class find a group you can study with, it will make the whole process a lot easier. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.
Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys. |
Originally Posted by bruhaha
(Post 2927905)
Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.
Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys. |
Originally Posted by bruhaha
(Post 2927905)
Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.
Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys. |
Originally Posted by GrillMaster
(Post 2927961)
Yup that happens for sure. Done it myself and seen others do it.
The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one. Works in both seats. |
Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY
(Post 2928101)
lol, that or CRJ guys pushing the A/THR disconnect because they used to be TOGA buttons for them.
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.
The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one. Works in both seats. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.
The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one. Works in both seats. on their PFD it is airspeed, heading, altitude, vertical speed like the rest of the industry but on their non-industry standard FCU it's heading, airspeed/vertical speed, altitude so Embraer guys to tend to grab the wrong knob when things get involved/busy.... that law of primacy thing. But to be fair, I did the same thing when I went from non-Embarer to Embarer - grabbed the wrong knobs on the Embraer. |
Originally Posted by bruhaha
(Post 2928440)
Which is industry standard except for Embraer
on their PFD it is airspeed, heading, altitude, vertical speed like the rest of the industry but on their non-industry standard FCU it's heading, airspeed/vertical speed, altitude so Embraer guys to tend to grab the wrong knob when things get involved/busy.... that law of primacy thing. But to be fair, I did the same thing when I went from non-Embarer to Embarer - grabbed the wrong knobs on the Embraer. |
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
(Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.
The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one. Works in both seats. |
Huh I flew the 175 for 3 years and couldn’t tell you what knob was where if my life depended on it.
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If only these knobs had labels on them
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Originally Posted by offmyrocker
(Post 2928625)
I just got out of the plane. FMA is in a different order than the knobs.
Next time you get in the plane, check the order of the FCU (you know, the panel with the knobs in the middle of the eyebrow) and the airspeed, heading, altitude, and v/s on the PFD. I promise you they match up nicely ;) |
It’s also not a mistake that they are all contoured a little bit differently, but that’s a lesson for day two.
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