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FML666 01-04-2018 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2495419)
I honestly don't know what they do for selecting pilots, but I think it's just a phone interview, no other tests...


There's a "talent assessment" sent to applicants but that could just be a 2 part "currently breathing and in possession of an ATP" checklist.

lowandslow 01-04-2018 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by FML666 (Post 2495644)
Was that new hire or upgrade OE? I've heard conflicting stories.

Nothing to say about that now.

Deathwish 01-04-2018 03:37 PM

And it might not be a discussion appropriate for these forums.

FML666 01-04-2018 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by lowandslow (Post 2495656)
If you have conflicting stories why do you assume so much in the last 2 sentences?

Because the only conflicting information I've heard is in regards to which seat the OE recipient was in.

FML666 01-04-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by Deathwish (Post 2495667)
And it might not be a discussion appropriate for these forums.

Original post edited.

dn_wisconsin 01-05-2018 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by Silver02ex (Post 2495266)
Was this recently?

Let's leave this alone. It's in the hands of the ERC.

Rumors always get ridiculous and everything I've seen on here is completely wrong so far.

king10pin02 01-05-2018 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by FML666 (Post 2495671)
Because the only conflicting information I've heard is in regards to which seat the OE recipient was in.

new hire oe (right seat)

flyboyike 01-06-2018 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2493413)
There is no cut and dry reason people succeed here other than being very prepared on day 1.

I think that's pretty cut and dry.

flyboyike 01-06-2018 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 2495341)
I believe it was on takeoff at LGA about a month ago.

A certain airline with widgets on their tails and double-breasted suits also had a tailstrike at the same airport with an A320 around the same time, except on landing. I wonder what that says about their training program.

Super EZ E 01-06-2018 12:35 PM

Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.

mkfmbos 01-06-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2497137)
Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.

Resume skills=1000
Airmanship=0

Lemon Jello 01-06-2018 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Super EZ E (Post 2497137)
Same superstar group had a new hire land a 737 in LA so hard a gear door came off. The new hire was fired. On average 1 a month is fired @ the ATL home town airline. No rumor just fact. We are talking probationary pilots.

Make you guys feel better to drag another pilot group into the discussion about our training/hiring deficiencies?

Tranquility 01-06-2018 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Lemon Jello (Post 2497372)
Make you guys feel better to drag another pilot group into the discussion about our training/hiring deficiencies?

I presume the point was, it can happen anywhere. Though, when considered in a proportional context, it’s more prevalent here... Hope this helps. :o

I will admit, it does give me a wee bit of solace knowing that we’re not the only ones boogering up **** or dinging aluminum...

FML666 01-06-2018 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by Lemon Jello (Post 2497372)
Make you guys feel better to drag another pilot group into the discussion about our training/hiring deficiencies?

When that group is the SkyGods™? Yup!

Super EZ E 01-06-2018 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2497373)
I presume the point was, it can happen anywhere. Though, when considered in a proportional context, it’s more prevalent here... Hope this helps. :o

I will admit, it does give me a wee bit of solace knowing that we’re not the only ones boogering up **** or dinging aluminum...

You are correct. It happens everywhere. If you don't want to have issues don't move the aircraft.

Acehole 01-07-2018 08:50 AM

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SmoothRide 01-10-2018 05:18 AM

Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks!

Pgus 01-10-2018 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by SmoothRide (Post 2499392)
Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks!

I’m not currently in training but transportation is provided to and from the training center. If you dont wanna depend on the Hotel van for transportation bring your car. Hope that helps.

Knob123 01-10-2018 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by SmoothRide (Post 2499392)
Could someone who has been through training recently tell me where they put you up at? What hotel etc. And if transportation is available to/from or should I plan to bring my car down?
Thanks!

Sheraton plantation...you don’t need your car

Ed Force One 01-10-2018 07:59 AM

It would definitely be easier for you if you had a car, however. It would just give you that much more freedom. (Grocery runs, eating out, coffee stops in the morning, etc)

But be warned that you could get sent to DFW or Vegas for your sims. New hire I just flew with drove down from up north only to have his sim in DFW.

SmoothRide 01-10-2018 09:20 AM

Okay good to know about the possibility of doing the sim elsewhere.
Thanks Guys!!

flyboyike 01-12-2018 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2497373)
I presume the point was, it can happen anywhere. Though, when considered in a proportional context, it’s more prevalent here...

I don't know that it is, I haven't seen any credible statistics to that effect. Then again, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics...

akulahunter 01-12-2018 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by flyboyike (Post 2501350)
I don't know that it is, I haven't seen any credible statistics to that effect. Then again, there's lies, damn lies, and statistics...

Nothing productive to add, except that's one of my favorite quotes.... lol (three types of lies)

Ed Force One 01-13-2018 06:37 AM

"You can prove anything with statistics." - My Dad. (Or maybe someone else that once said it to him, I don't know.)

Treebug 11-21-2019 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by king10pin02 (Post 2493103)
its a self study style course where you have to learn both seats and checkride in the left seat, followed by ioe all in the right seat. plenty of 135 guys here but they were at a disadvatage compared to 121 experienced crews, especially compared to e170/175 crews

How much of an advantage is it coming from a 175? The self study concept makes me a little nervous.

VIRotate 11-21-2019 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Treebug (Post 2927436)
How much of an advantage is it coming from a 175? The self study concept makes me a little nervous.

You should be good. First jet/121 airline was the 175 and we had home study. Wasn't a problem.

Sheg0theD 11-21-2019 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Treebug (Post 2927436)
How much of an advantage is it coming from a 175? The self study concept makes me a little nervous.



When you get to class find a group you can study with, it will make the whole process a lot easier.


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bruhaha 11-21-2019 01:28 PM

Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.

Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys.

GrillMaster 11-21-2019 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by bruhaha (Post 2927905)
Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.

Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys.

Yup that happens for sure. Done it myself and seen others do it.

ASAPsafetyGUY 11-21-2019 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by bruhaha (Post 2927905)
Only problem I see with 145/175 guys is if they get task saturated they might grab the airspeed knob when they meant to grab the heading knob or vice versa because Embraer designed their FCU backwards compared to the rest of the aircraft manufacturers.

Other than that no issues with 145/175 guys.

lol, that or CRJ guys pushing the A/THR disconnect because they used to be TOGA buttons for them.

RemoveB4flght 11-22-2019 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by GrillMaster (Post 2927961)
Yup that happens for sure. Done it myself and seen others do it.

You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.

The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one.

Works in both seats.

Philknight 11-22-2019 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2928101)
lol, that or CRJ guys pushing the A/THR disconnect because they used to be TOGA buttons for them.

Guilty. Filler

nuball5 11-22-2019 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.

The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one.

Works in both seats.

I like hearing these little helpers, thanks. Jetblue 190 guy transitioning to the Airbus soon.

bruhaha 11-22-2019 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.

The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one.

Works in both seats.

Which is industry standard except for Embraer
on their PFD it is airspeed, heading, altitude, vertical speed like the rest of the industry
but on their non-industry standard FCU it's heading, airspeed/vertical speed, altitude

so Embraer guys to tend to grab the wrong knob when things get involved/busy.... that law of primacy thing.

But to be fair, I did the same thing when I went from non-Embarer to Embarer - grabbed the wrong knobs on the Embraer.

dera 11-22-2019 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by bruhaha (Post 2928440)
Which is industry standard except for Embraer
on their PFD it is airspeed, heading, altitude, vertical speed like the rest of the industry
but on their non-industry standard FCU it's heading, airspeed/vertical speed, altitude

so Embraer guys to tend to grab the wrong knob when things get involved/busy.... that law of primacy thing.

But to be fair, I did the same thing when I went from non-Embarer to Embarer - grabbed the wrong knobs on the Embraer.

It's actually heading, airspeed, altitude, FPA, vertical speed in the 175.

offmyrocker 11-22-2019 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2928284)
You may already know this trick but I’ll throw it out there for the new hires.

The four FCU knobs from left to right are in the same order as the airspeed, heading, altitude, and vertical speed on the PFD (or right to left if you prefer to think that way) which is why you don’t need to look at the knob to find to correct one.

Works in both seats.

I just got out of the plane. FMA is in a different order than the knobs.

Slowhawk 11-22-2019 05:47 PM

Huh I flew the 175 for 3 years and couldn’t tell you what knob was where if my life depended on it.

Omniscient 11-22-2019 07:30 PM

If only these knobs had labels on them

RemoveB4flght 11-22-2019 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by offmyrocker (Post 2928625)
I just got out of the plane. FMA is in a different order than the knobs.

And if you had read my post, I didn’t say anything about the FMA.

Next time you get in the plane, check the order of the FCU (you know, the panel with the knobs in the middle of the eyebrow) and the airspeed, heading, altitude, and v/s on the PFD. I promise you they match up nicely ;)

RemoveB4flght 11-22-2019 11:09 PM

It’s also not a mistake that they are all contoured a little bit differently, but that’s a lesson for day two.


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