Well I’ll say this, IF they care about getting guys in CASS now, that’s a change of the past. Back in the day, none of us were processed into CASS until training was done. This wasn’t an ex employer background delay, it was a Spirit delay.

Ever try emailing pass travel or HR? Or other departments? Good luck on a timely reply; so that’s why I’m shocked that one department is concern with expedited anything down at the office

Awesome, thanks.

This. Miramar isn’t out to get you. It’s all based on getting the responses back from your prior employers.

If you’re former military, depending on how long ago you went through a training course, you’ll find Spirit’s training easy.

That’s what I was thinking. In 20 years, I flew 4 different MWSs and too many Mil flying courses to count.

I’m thinking if you do your job and figure out what you need to know, Spirit gives you the time and materials to succeed.

Maybe those who failed prove there is a standard? Not every pilot is airline pilot material.........

Either way, good luck to all, keep your nose in the books (iPads?).....but wipe it clean every once in awhile.

D~

Exactly! The other thing is, don't worry about it being civilian training vs military training, you'll adapt quite quickly. Learning the material is the same regardless if you're mil or civ.

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Where are the FPT training events held? Are they at FLL?
Thanks!

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I feel for those who don't get CASS/KCM quickly especially during holidays. I have mine 4 days into indoc. Don't know who's to blame or thank.

Going to training soon, besides the stated things to bring, any recommendations and/or things you wish you would have brought but didn’t? Thanks everyone

Depending which hotel you’re at you’ll have a mini fridge/sink/microwave.

I picked up a Brita type water pitcher on the cheap and it saved me from having to lug cases of water.

Thanks, yeah not staying at the long stay type, am at the Sherri.

Make sure to bring a good six to twelve pack cooler for the pool.

I second that motion. Maybe a pool lounger. My brain was more receptive to memorizing limitations, memory items, and systems info with beer in hand while on a pool lounger.

I just know I looked forward to the days off from the craziness. We work hard during this training and we don’t get to go home like other airlines do. We had a collective group of people, spanning several classes, who liked to unwind at the pool with a few brewskis.

We had a single day off in the middle of CSIs, and I went ahead and rented a car so our study group could go down to Miami Beach for a day to decompress. It is good to do that, provided you have been putting in the work all along and are not behind.

What happens on day one at the other building vs the training center at the airport?

Meet some of the department heads, maybe a big wig or two. Drink the Kool-Aid. Tour the dispatch and scheduling center. Basically the same Day 1 as anywhere lol

You will also get your badge at the end of Day 1.

Congrats. Hope to be behind you.

Seems like there has been some confusion to what to study and where to find it. Is that not well explained on “day one”?

If you have time, keep us prospective applicants updated......plz....

Thanks,

D~

It's all explained in your welcome packet that you'll get a few weeks prior to showing up with what you need to study and the associated reading materials. If you handled NATOPS or a Dash One in your previous life, you will be just fine.

Please don’t drink the Kool-Aid. This isn’t the worst place to work but certainly not worthy of Kool-Aid.


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I wasn’t saying that, just that they will be serving it lol.

I will say there are FAR worse places to work and no I’m not comparing it to a regional. I left Allegiant to come here for a very good reason. Couldn’t be happier.

There are a few of us here from there, true better than AAY but still not Kool-Aid worthy.


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What flavor is the yellow Kool-Aid?

Sweet delicious fresh squeezed lemonade!

dont eat the yellow snow

Cool.

Thanks

Half of my new hire class had no prior 121 and several came from flying piston airplanes.
Just interview and let the company decide if they want you or not and go from there.

Is anyone currently in initial training?

Feels like every day is initial training ......


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Yeeeaapppp

My class date is next month and I'm currently going through all of the CBT courses they send out on the Spirit LMS (SumTotal) website. How accurate is all of the information?

I've been told from pilots going through 1-2 years ago that the info they got was not at all accurate as to what was covered in their class. (granted this must have been before Spirit sent out these CBT courses)

Just want to make sure I'm not over studying; obviously flows, memory items and limitations need to be memorized prior to day 1.

It is over studying for sure. They send you home for 9 days to do CBTs and there are only (about) 36 of them.

Any CBT you do on Sum Total won't be credited towards your CBTs in class. They are different CBTs, done on the Ipad with a different software.

Yeah, I agree, don’t study systems until they send you home on week three. Just study flows, limitations and memory items till then.

Stop now. Focus on flows, limitations, and memory items until you're blue in the face. Then find AOM v2 on SumTotal and study the expanded normals on the same flows. Do not study systems until you're done with CPTs.

Thanks for the info! The SumTotal log in instructions came with the Pilot Welcome Package and it had all of the CBTs listed. Even has a recommended order to follow. It didn't explicitly say to do them prior to class, so I wasn't sure.

There are about 35 modules/documents in there already. I'll get the important stuff memorized for sure.

Any tips or things you'd do differently prior to starting class?

Don't even waste your time on systems stuff as others have said.

1. Flows
2. Flows
3. Flows
4. Limitations/memory items

In that order. The ones who struggle the most don’t have a good grip on the flows. Don’t worry there are no tests during Indoc. So while you should have 80-100% of memory items and limitations down day 1, don’t sweat it if you are still fine tuning it. Those are important for the oral. Flows will determine how well you progress. If you want to go above and beyond and have a good feel for the flows, start reading AOM 2 and understanding what you are doing when you are performing the flows. For the first 2 weeks or so it’s just muscle memory. So really don’t stress it.

If you have flows, memory items, limitations down day 1, don’t really have any advice. You already well ahead of the game. Then when it comes to systems and you start connecting the dots, it really clicks.

This is EXACTLY what you need to do. Flows especially. Know them cold. I didn’t do the sumtotal CBTs, almost none of us did. The first week is death by PowerPoint, but by week 2 you must know the flows and limitations/memory items by heart. Reading through the AOM2 normal procedures will be a massive help, too. They’ll give you an iPad on day 1 that has proper CBTs.

Flows flows flows.

I heard Spirit was looking at adopting the AQP program, is this still planned.

Thank you

They have started rolling out for certain things. I think recurrents are first.