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Old 02-08-2018 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying101
Exactly! It’s slightly out dated but awesome info to have when comparing the TA.
it actually says january 2018
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Old 02-08-2018 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
it actually says january 2018
My fault , misread some of the data.
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Old 02-08-2018 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
The only embarrassing thing is adults who refer to a T/A as a “terd burger”. I cringe everytime. Grow up.



You can not like this T/A but ar least act like an adult in your reasoning and use adult terminology lol

Rub this on the TA





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Old 02-08-2018 | 06:47 PM
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Reminds me, “The difference between **** and Shinola” as the old saying goes.
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Old 02-09-2018 | 07:55 AM
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I know Spirit is no Southwest but food for thought.

Southwest top captain currently 258/hour, 14.2 percent retirement, and they are getting a 11.3 percent profit sharing check for 2017....

Spirit TA top captain currently 237.50/hour, plus 11 percent retirement plus you get to fly a yellow bus.

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Old 02-09-2018 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wt93205
I know Spirit is no Southwest but food for thought.

Southwest top captain currently 258/hour, 14.2 percent retirement, and they are getting a 11.3 percent profit sharing check for 2017....

Spirit TA top captain currently 237.50/hour, plus 11 percent retirement plus you get to fly a yellow bus.

We didn’t even get crumbs!
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Old 02-10-2018 | 06:31 PM
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STOP AND THINK

For those who have "vote this thing in and start the clock again for next negotiations" as a reason to vote yes, stop and think. You are rushing to vote in a contract in order to start the clock for a next contract? What?!?!? A contract is open NOW for a chance to get a better contract NOW, why put it off for 7 more years?. Leave the future for the future, as everyone on here says, "no one knows what the future holds".

No need to rush into what you'll experience for the next 7 yrs. Ensure you are getting the best contract now so when the clock starts again you have 7yrs of decent QOL and pay and not needing to even worry about when the next contract will come. It's gonna be either:
1) You guys sitting comfy and in no rush to ratify another contract in 2025 or
2) Management sitting comfy when they get all the concessions they need from this TA therefore having all the reason to drag out a next negotiation in the future.

The choice is yours Today

If you think mgmt wont drag out another contract negotiation again, then you deserve to be bamboozled.

PS. Sorry I had to post this on multiple forum, had to get a statement out
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Old 02-15-2018 | 04:15 PM
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So the graph of the industry average pay, and it shows our TA “slightly” below that average.....
What airlines are included in those industry averages? Is Allegiant included, bringing that industry average down? I ran numbers for AA,DL,,UA,JB and the GAP between this TA and those averages is a lot greater than that graph at the RS....


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Old 02-15-2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan Spadowski
So the graph of the industry average pay, and it shows our TA “slightly” below that average.....
What airlines are included in those industry averages? Is Allegiant included, bringing that industry average down? I ran numbers for AA,DL,,UA,JB and the GAP between this TA and those averages is a lot greater than that graph at the RS....


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Curious how you ran your comparison.... Top scale or your current rate? 321 override included or not? Did you use a blend of DL/UA 320/321 rates or straight 320 pay with group 2 rates at AA, or something else? Just curious what your parameters were....
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Old 02-15-2018 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan Spadowski
So the graph of the industry average pay, and it shows our TA “slightly” below that average.....
What airlines are included in those industry averages? Is Allegiant included, bringing that industry average down? I ran numbers for AA,DL,,UA,JB and the GAP between this TA and those averages is a lot greater than that graph at the RS....


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Yes Allegiant is in there, Frotier is not
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