TA Ratified.
02-28-2018, 11:01 AM
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TA Ratified.
Originally Posted by GuzzlePig580
We just got stuck with CURRENT JetBlue rates and lost all of our QOL.....
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
I’d bet a case a beer we negotiate a JCBA with some other carrier before we see another SPA contract. But I agree. I don’t think we got enough in return for what we gave up.
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02-28-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bodean
Maybe you forgot we were SO BELOW average prior that the large percentage from this TA. offsets a net gain in industry average...
When you start from so low, any double digit percentage increase looks H U G E....
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When you start from so low, any double digit percentage increase looks H U G E....
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Any contract that is a net positive for any pilot group, by definition, improves industry average. Pretty simple.
02-28-2018, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GuzzlePig580
We just got stuck with CURRENT JetBlue rates and lost all of our QOL.....
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
PBS is still to be determined, so we don’t k ow how that will affect things. Could be good, bad, or neutral.
And we are by no means bringing down the industry. Technically we did set the new floor tho.
02-28-2018, 11:58 AM
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Congrats fo fellow Spirit guys. Obviously we didnt get everything we wanted but we made some GIGANTIC strides. Thanks to the entire SPA MEC & N/C for getting us this deal.
Good luck to F9 & JBlue, hopefully this helps them achieve their goals
Good luck to F9 & JBlue, hopefully this helps them achieve their goals
02-28-2018, 12:19 PM
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The only negative to this was the five year contract, although that could go either way if/when the economy tanks sometime in the next little while.
AA held out for massive gains in 2001 and voted down a decent base hitting contract with lots of improvements, then 9/11 happened and they were stuck with that turd for over a decade.
AA held out for massive gains in 2001 and voted down a decent base hitting contract with lots of improvements, then 9/11 happened and they were stuck with that turd for over a decade.
02-28-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GuzzlePig580
We just got stuck with CURRENT JetBlue rates and lost all of our QOL.....
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
How do you all think these rates (3rd from the bottom of the majors) will measure up with the rest of the industry in 2025, after we haven’t gotten a raise in years because management is once again dragging their feet in another negotiation?
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