Jr bases at Spirit
07-31-2022 | 10:29 AM
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in the cases of DFW/IAH, ORD/DTW, LAS/LAX they are all separate catchment areas without much cannibalization. Legacies can’t really have major fortress hub operations so close together because of RJ feed, but an O&D focused approach could easily work in bases relatively close together. Like someone else said, look at how we already operate so many bases close together. BOS/JFK/EWR, FLL/MCO
07-31-2022 | 10:50 AM
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in the cases of DFW/IAH, ORD/DTW, LAS/LAX they are all separate catchment areas without much cannibalization. Legacies can’t really have major fortress hub operations so close together because of RJ feed, but an O&D focused approach could easily work in bases relatively close together. Like someone else said, look at how we already operate so many bases close together. BOS/JFK/EWR, FLL/MCO
07-31-2022 | 11:07 AM
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Here's a good read. How they transition the Spirit product/routes into a JB product will be interesting to watch.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jetbl...4YgU700Q%3D%3D
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jetbl...4YgU700Q%3D%3D
08-01-2022 | 04:55 AM
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Here's a good read. How they transition the Spirit product/routes into a JB product will be interesting to watch.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jetbl...4YgU700Q%3D%3D
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/jetbl...4YgU700Q%3D%3D
Great take.
(although he used "synergies" in the first paragraph...which, after the past few months, has become a word that makes me want to toss my cookies)
08-06-2022 | 05:13 AM
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Honestly this is a hard question to really answer. NK is shrinking the base, which has always been one of our smaller ones anyway. What happens when B6 takes over is anyones guess, and yes its all just a guess, although some more educated than others. Honestly it appears NK wants to make moves down in IAH, so that may be our future. If you must stay in DFW, try to get on at AA/WN or like Halon said, Envoy. Envoy pay and flow would be hard to pass up right to come to NK, especially with all the uncertainty. Best of luck whichever route you choose.
08-06-2022 | 05:21 AM
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Honestly this is a hard question to really answer. NK is shrinking the base, which has always been one of our smaller ones anyway. What happens when B6 takes over is anyones guess, and yes its all just a guess, although some more educated than others. Honestly it appears NK wants to make moves down in IAH, so that may be our future. If you must stay in DFW, try to get on at AA/WN or like Halon said, Envoy. Envoy pay and flow would be hard to pass up right to come to NK, especially with all the uncertainty. Best of luck whichever route you choose.
If this is true, going to envoy is an insane move and explains why they are offering a 2 year pay bump. The flow will be worthless when/if you flow in half a decade and you can’t get hired on before that, leaving you with DAL and UAL that has already done the majority of their bulk hiring.
NKs plans for DFW are long term not important as it will be JBLU making the call. JBLU will have to make divestments in NE and Florida bases, probably, and they will need to stack 7000 pilots somewhere. DFW and IAH are two of the largest markets in the country and I think have a strong future, as does ORD and DTW.
Goodbye failed ULCC model, hello change.
08-06-2022 | 08:25 AM
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Spoke to an envoy FO last week. He said their flow is still 6 years and you can’t get hired by AA outside of the flow as an envoy pilot.
If this is true, going to envoy is an insane move and explains why they are offering a 2 year pay bump. The flow will be worthless when/if you flow in half a decade and you can’t get hired on before that, leaving you with DAL and UAL that has already done the majority of their bulk hiring.
NKs plans for DFW are long term not important as it will be JBLU making the call. JBLU will have to make divestments in NE and Florida bases, probably, and they will need to stack 7000 pilots somewhere. DFW and IAH are two of the largest markets in the country and I think have a strong future, as does ORD and DTW.
Goodbye failed ULCC model, hello change.
If this is true, going to envoy is an insane move and explains why they are offering a 2 year pay bump. The flow will be worthless when/if you flow in half a decade and you can’t get hired on before that, leaving you with DAL and UAL that has already done the majority of their bulk hiring.
NKs plans for DFW are long term not important as it will be JBLU making the call. JBLU will have to make divestments in NE and Florida bases, probably, and they will need to stack 7000 pilots somewhere. DFW and IAH are two of the largest markets in the country and I think have a strong future, as does ORD and DTW.
Goodbye failed ULCC model, hello change.
really you think delta has done a majority of its hiring all ready?
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