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FedexGuy 10-17-2018 12:10 AM

How long to hold a Dtw line?

Flightcap 10-17-2018 04:35 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2692601)
How long to hold a Dtw line?

7-9 months to reliably hold at least a relief line. I'm five months on property and a couple classes back from the most junior relief lines.

FedexGuy 10-17-2018 05:22 AM


Originally Posted by Flightcap (Post 2692640)
7-9 months to reliably hold at least a relief line. I'm five months on property and a couple classes back from the most junior relief lines.

Thanks. And what is a relief line exactly? Sorry, new to all this...

Flightcap 10-17-2018 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2692655)
Thanks. And what is a relief line exactly? Sorry, new to all this...

It's a line made up partially of reserve days and partially of trips. I don't know what the overall ratio typically is between trips and reserve. I haven't got any experience from which to tell you.

FNGFO 10-17-2018 06:04 AM

You can ask for no reserve on a relief line. Or certain days off. Or certain kinds of trips. And you can drop the whole thing if you don’t like what is sent to you and he reserve grid supports it. They offer a lot of flexibility.

Tranquility 10-17-2018 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2692674)
And you can drop the whole thing if you don’t like what is sent to you and he reserve grid supports it. They offer a lot of flexibility.

Not exactly, the arbitration award made dropping reserve while you’re a relief holder just like reserve line holders (only one block, outside in, etc...) The way one way around it is to swap the reserve for a trip, then subsequently drop the trip if it’s green. If there’s no trip to swap into, you’re SOL.

FNGFO 10-17-2018 08:21 AM

This is true. I guess I’ve never had a bunch of reserve on a REL line so I haven’t thought about it.

Qotsaautopilot 10-17-2018 08:36 AM

The company has no obligation to offer relief lines when we switch to pbs. They may or may not exist moving forward

Ducttape 10-17-2018 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2692674)
You can ask for no reserve on a relief line. Or certain days off. Or certain kinds of trips. And you can drop the whole thing if you don’t like what is sent to you and he reserve grid supports it. They offer a lot of flexibility.

The only contractual thing you can request on a REL is a specific block of days off. Asking for “no reserve” on a REL line is as effective as placing a tooth under your pillow for the tooth fairy to come. Same goes for asking for “certain kids of trips”


And others have said, you can’t drop reserve on relief lines. You’ll have to swap into a trip and drop the trip if it’s green.

Where did you even get this information? Because is nowhere in our contract and only sets people up for anger and disappointment when they don’t “get” what they requested.

putzin 10-17-2018 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ducttape (Post 2692799)
The only contractual thing you can request on a REL is a specific block of days off. Asking for “no reserve” on a REL line is as effective as placing a tooth under your pillow for the tooth fairy to come. Same goes for asking for “certain kids of trips”


And others have said, you can’t drop reserve on relief lines. You’ll have to swap into a trip and drop the trip if it’s green.

Where did you even get this information? Because is nowhere in our contract and only sets people up for anger and disappointment when they don’t “get” what they requested.

You can drop reserve on a relief line, but only 1 block (if green) and outside in OR trade it for a trip in DOT.

In general a relief line, today, offers more flexibility than a reserve line.


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