Ducttape

Usually runs 2-2.25% over your hours.

Last month my A321 override was worth $5 extra an hour over my 80 hours credit and the pay was $404 extra. Month prior was more because of summer time block hours. But I usually just take my hourly rate and increase by 2% on my hourly rate and that is my effective rate with it blended, five or take.

Here is the language

The rates of pay for Airbus pilots shall be based on the ratio of total system-wide A321 block time to the sum of system-wide A319/ A320 and A321 block time (revenue and non-revenue) in the month. For example, in Septem-ber 2005, 2,400 block hours (50 percent) are flown in the A321, and 2,400 combined block hours (50 percent) are flown in the A319/A320. Therefore, all Airbus pilots shall be paid 105 percent of their rate of pay set forth in Section 3 of the Basic Agreement, regardless of which aircraft they are assigned/awarded, for all credit earned in the month. The overage shall be paid on the second paycheck in the following month, in this example, on the second paycheck in October 2005.

Aero1900

Thank you. That's what I thought but had heard the override was more

symbian simian

It is, kinda. The override is 10%. It is paid out pro-rated based on company wide block hours for the previous month, not your individual block on the 321. Last month, 319+320 was 30K hours, 321 was 10K hours, so 321 was 25% of flying, so the rate paid out was 2.5%.

Tranquility

Additionally, we’ve received our last 321 on our current order book. So the ~2% will be more diluted as we take more deliveries of 320’s....

Flightcap

Should come out roughly even with the ALPA dues drop, eh?

Qotsaautopilot

Think of it this way in normal override terms. The override is 10% in the contract. If you credit 80hrs in October and 20 of those hours were 321 flying, you would get a 10% override on only those 20 hours. That money workes out to a 2.5% increase on your entire month.

In Spirit terms we just take company wide airbus block hours instead of each single pilot. Whatever portion of the total block hours is 321 gets a 10% override. So if 25% of the Airbus block hours is 321 then that 25% of the flying gets a 10% override. That’s a 2.5% increase on all of the flying. So we take that 2.5% and apply it to every hour of credit each pilot has for the month whether it’s 321 or not.

As mentioned before as we take more 320s and the ratio of 321s goes down so will the override. Just as if it were another airline and they grew the 320 fleet and not the 321s at the same pace it would be less likely you’d fly 321 and therefore your monthly override money would be reduced. The override stays in place (10%) you just see it less often and get less of it.

Point being- the override is 10%. We just spread it around equally to the pilot group.

WhiteMorpheus

Sounds like travel benefits are so-so.

Are the ZED agreements Spirit has mostly Low, Medium, or High cost?

djslappy

Is there a profit share? I haven't seen it discussed at all.

Deathwish

Typical fares for a some domestic and international are:

Hawaiian $60
Southwest $40
Frontier $30
Virgin Atlantic $100
Lufthansa $100
Alitalia $100

IWalkJun12

Oh boy, you just started a $hit storm. Enjoy the next 22 pages.