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#102
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Because if the current CEO announces the next massive step for the airline and then steps out the door, it kind of leaves the new CEO standing around with his DK in his hand and doesn't create the image of a new company leader with exciting company expansion. Is this logic that hard to understand? a new leader with goals of more expansion increases interest and stock prices.
#103
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Because if the current CEO announces the next massive step for the airline and then steps out the door, it kind of leaves the new CEO standing around with his DK in his hand and doesn't create the image of a new company leader with exciting company expansion. Is this logic that hard to understand? a new leader with goals of more expansion increases interest and stock prices.
#104
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Certainly logical. I’ve just heard this hypothesis a few times now and there doesn’t seem much to back it up. In today’s corporate America most CEOs are short term and manage for the quarter. It’s all about Me me me. Seems odd to negotiate a big order and let your successor have all the glory.
More likely they are still finalizing an order or securing the best financing for the order.
#105
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Anyone who has been in this industry long enough knows that everything happens in waves. 12 more deliveries are about to hit the fleet in the next 4 months. I am sure that will cause the number of upgrades to pick back up for a bit.
#106
The most common refrain has been that any new order would be after Jan 1st. Does this coincide with new CEO / Pres., could be.
Staffing for 2019 has lately been @420 new hires and @200 CUG.
I believe PBS co bid will start in March, with full PBS by summer. Anyone want to guess what PBS will do to staffing and reduction in reserve numbers?
Staffing for 2019 has lately been @420 new hires and @200 CUG.
I believe PBS co bid will start in March, with full PBS by summer. Anyone want to guess what PBS will do to staffing and reduction in reserve numbers?
#107
Certainly logical. I’ve just heard this hypothesis a few times now and there doesn’t seem much to back it up. In today’s corporate America most CEOs are short term and manage for the quarter. It’s all about Me me me. Seems odd to negotiate a big order and let your successor have all the glory.
#108
The most common refrain has been that any new order would be after Jan 1st. Does this coincide with new CEO / Pres., could be.
Staffing for 2019 has lately been @420 new hires and @200 CUG.
I believe PBS co bid will start in March, with full PBS by summer. Anyone want to guess what PBS will do to staffing and reduction in reserve numbers?
Staffing for 2019 has lately been @420 new hires and @200 CUG.
I believe PBS co bid will start in March, with full PBS by summer. Anyone want to guess what PBS will do to staffing and reduction in reserve numbers?
With the interim transition and reserve language we have now I doubt it will be that much more efficient with PBS.
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#109
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I wouldn’t be worried about upgrade times anymore.
I have been told from multiple sources that with the recent Lion Air 737 Max order cancellation (see link on bottom) Boeing is under even more pressure to give us a deal more that what was mentioned before. And with that Spirit had already placed the order for some of (or all) Lion Air’s cancellations and like others have said it will be anncouned by our new CEO after the new year. The other advantage that Spirit had with picking up these orders from where Lion Air left off is that we don’t have to wait long to start taking the MAX’s since they have been in the queue for a while. Also it’s part of Spirits model to get the newer fuel efficient planes (just like our NEO’s)
I was also told by someone in the training department that we will actually be getting out first sim for it 2Q19. When I say getting our first sim, I’m sure it’s like what we are doing with AFG.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4227376-boeings-cancellation-battle-fast-grower
I have been told from multiple sources that with the recent Lion Air 737 Max order cancellation (see link on bottom) Boeing is under even more pressure to give us a deal more that what was mentioned before. And with that Spirit had already placed the order for some of (or all) Lion Air’s cancellations and like others have said it will be anncouned by our new CEO after the new year. The other advantage that Spirit had with picking up these orders from where Lion Air left off is that we don’t have to wait long to start taking the MAX’s since they have been in the queue for a while. Also it’s part of Spirits model to get the newer fuel efficient planes (just like our NEO’s)
I was also told by someone in the training department that we will actually be getting out first sim for it 2Q19. When I say getting our first sim, I’m sure it’s like what we are doing with AFG.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4227376-boeings-cancellation-battle-fast-grower
#110
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Joined APC: Sep 2018
Posts: 196
I wouldn’t be worried about upgrade times anymore.
I have been told from multiple sources that with the recent Lion Air 737 Max order cancellation (see link on bottom) Boeing is under even more pressure to give us a deal more that what was mentioned before. And with that Spirit had already placed the order for some of (or all) Lion Air’s cancellations and like others have said it will be anncouned by our new CEO after the new year. The other advantage that Spirit had with picking up these orders from where Lion Air left off is that we don’t have to wait long to start taking the MAX’s since they have been in the queue for a while. Also it’s part of Spirits model to get the newer fuel efficient planes (just like our NEO’s)
I was also told by someone in the training department that we will actually be getting out first sim for it 2Q19. When I say getting our first sim, I’m sure it’s like what we are doing with AFG.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4227376-boeings-cancellation-battle-fast-grower
I have been told from multiple sources that with the recent Lion Air 737 Max order cancellation (see link on bottom) Boeing is under even more pressure to give us a deal more that what was mentioned before. And with that Spirit had already placed the order for some of (or all) Lion Air’s cancellations and like others have said it will be anncouned by our new CEO after the new year. The other advantage that Spirit had with picking up these orders from where Lion Air left off is that we don’t have to wait long to start taking the MAX’s since they have been in the queue for a while. Also it’s part of Spirits model to get the newer fuel efficient planes (just like our NEO’s)
I was also told by someone in the training department that we will actually be getting out first sim for it 2Q19. When I say getting our first sim, I’m sure it’s like what we are doing with AFG.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4227376-boeings-cancellation-battle-fast-grower
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