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11-16-2018 | 11:15 AM
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I was perplexed by this poorly thought out “joke” as well. I guess I took it as he was implying that should he need to apply at Spirit as a first officer that his life had taken a drastic turn for the worst? As if he could just apply for a highly technical and demanding job that requires years of training and prior experience to even be considered for. I found it very weird and extremely unprofessional. They do know we listen to these calls right? His “joke” came off as wildly out of touch, which now that I think of it everybody who participates in those earnings calls probably is.
11-16-2018 | 02:11 PM
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11-16-2018 | 03:16 PM
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Jamie Baker
Hey, good morning everybody. You’ve had several months now to live with the new pilot contract and at the same time you know the growth rate based on ASM’s is decelerating pretty meaningfully. If I were hired as a first officer today, which would be a bad idea obviously, but what would your best estimate be in terms of how long it would take me to move to the left seat. In two years ago at this time what would your answer have been roughly speaking?
John Bendoraitis
Hey Jamie, this is John Bendoraitis. So right now we're running about – it ranges from two years and eight months to about three years depending on you know when you want to make the move, so we just kind of round it to three years and it's been pretty consistent in my time here. So it's been hovering right around that three year mark, so give or take a few months on either side.
Jamie Baker
And going forward, that's true even with the slower growth rate?
A - Bob Fornaro
But the block hours are, you know you got to look at we're getting bigger. So even though the rate is going down we’re in it.
Ted Christie
And I would say the move Jamie; it’s Ted. The move off of this, there may be you know rounding a little bit, but it's not going to be material shifts. We’re still going to be an extremely attractive place to work for pilots while we continue to grow even at mid-teens rather than ‘21, in ’21. It's still going to be one of the best in the industry.
Jamie Baker
Okay, got it, that was the point of the question.
Hey, good morning everybody. You’ve had several months now to live with the new pilot contract and at the same time you know the growth rate based on ASM’s is decelerating pretty meaningfully. If I were hired as a first officer today, which would be a bad idea obviously, but what would your best estimate be in terms of how long it would take me to move to the left seat. In two years ago at this time what would your answer have been roughly speaking?
John Bendoraitis
Hey Jamie, this is John Bendoraitis. So right now we're running about – it ranges from two years and eight months to about three years depending on you know when you want to make the move, so we just kind of round it to three years and it's been pretty consistent in my time here. So it's been hovering right around that three year mark, so give or take a few months on either side.
Jamie Baker
And going forward, that's true even with the slower growth rate?
A - Bob Fornaro
But the block hours are, you know you got to look at we're getting bigger. So even though the rate is going down we’re in it.
Ted Christie
And I would say the move Jamie; it’s Ted. The move off of this, there may be you know rounding a little bit, but it's not going to be material shifts. We’re still going to be an extremely attractive place to work for pilots while we continue to grow even at mid-teens rather than ‘21, in ’21. It's still going to be one of the best in the industry.
Jamie Baker
Okay, got it, that was the point of the question.
11-19-2018 | 05:48 AM
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I hope BWI doesn’t become a base. The more bases you have the more you dilute the other existing bases leading to less flexibility (read: open time for swapping, look at ACY). Especially when placed in locations like BWI where no one wants to live and a new base doesn’t help anyone.
Now, another west coast base where people might actually want to live could improve qol for many even with dilution of the other bases.
A hand full of big bases is best for qol as opposed to a bunch of small ones. How much swapping to you think Allegiant pilots do? Basically zero. Like I tell my kids, you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Who wants that?
Now, another west coast base where people might actually want to live could improve qol for many even with dilution of the other bases.
A hand full of big bases is best for qol as opposed to a bunch of small ones. How much swapping to you think Allegiant pilots do? Basically zero. Like I tell my kids, you get what you get and you don’t get upset. Who wants that?
11-19-2018 | 11:55 AM
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ACY guys would flood BWI. We have a lot of guys on the east coast that would love BWI. We need a lot more activity to make BWI a crew base. I don't see it anytime soon, You'd think ACY would close but we fill the aircraft.
11-20-2018 | 03:59 PM
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Why not? BWI will be over 30 departures a day soon (except for Tuesday and Wednesday). Could easily support a base.
11-21-2018 | 06:14 AM
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