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TogaParty 01-13-2019 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by LloydBraun (Post 2741935)
Friend said Ted was on a recent flight and probably won’t here about a order now til mid year.

If true I wonder why the announcement keeps getting pushed back.. All previous communication on this subject indicated end of 2018-1Q 2019.

LloydBraun 01-13-2019 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by TogaParty (Post 2742152)
If true I wonder why the announcement keeps getting pushed back.. All previous communication on this subject indicated end of 2018-1Q 2019.

As I’ve said before. I think they screwed the pooch and got beat to the punch on ordering more Airbus for 2021 and beyond. Guessing now seeing if any economic downturn actually happens and someone starts backing out of orders and then try and grab some then.

FNGFO 01-13-2019 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by TogaParty (Post 2742152)
If true I wonder why the announcement keeps getting pushed back.. All previous communication on this subject indicated end of 2018-1Q 2019.

F9 merger?

Macjet 01-13-2019 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2742226)
F9 merger?

That wouldn't fall within the 13-15% growth guidance that's been issued would it? I think it's too early for NK or F9 to be talking merger. We've made significant improvements in the quality of our airline but we still have a ways to go. And as we're in the process of spending capital to put the new logo on the side of the airplanes and every other piece of forward facing material with our logo I can't then see merging in six months to do it all over again.

Lincoln Osiris 01-13-2019 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2742251)
That wouldn't fall within the 13-15% growth guidance that's been issued would it? I think it's too early for NK or F9 to be talking merger. We've made significant improvements in the quality of our airline but we still have a ways to go. And as we're in the process of spending capital to put the new logo on the side of the airplanes and every other piece of forward facing material with our logo I can't then see merging in six months to do it all over again.

What makes you think if a merger we’re to happen that Spirit would be the ones changing anything? Lol

Macjet 01-13-2019 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris (Post 2742257)
What makes you think if a merger we’re to happen that Spirit would be the ones changing anything? Lol

An acquisition would certainly fulfill the growth requirements for the next few years depending on how many of their deliveries were negotiated in the deal. Whether NK would pay Indigo a premium for those slots is an unknown. I also don't know the tolerance for 4 different engine types but that'd be a minor issue, aside from the poorer CFM fuel burn, with manuals and maintenance. Boeing has presented a 3/2 aircraft full fleet swap plan with simulator and MX support. I don't want F9 or antique airplanes but who knows what's coming our way. Hopefully Ted's welcome email is a tad longer than Bob's was.

FNGFO 01-13-2019 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2742251)
That wouldn't fall within the 13-15% growth guidance that's been issued would it? I think it's too early for NK or F9 to be talking merger. We've made significant improvements in the quality of our airline but we still have a ways to go. And as we're in the process of spending capital to put the new logo on the side of the airplanes and every other piece of forward facing material with our logo I can't then see merging in six months to do it all over again.

That’s all nice and stuff, but it doesn’t address the point. The theory is that a possible order announcement has been put off 6 months as F9 just passed their contract and will soon be floated for sale by Indigo. It also coincides nicely with our slight rebranding, new paint and new unis.

It’s just a guess that fits the facts and not indicative of what I’m hoping will happen.

Lincoln Osiris 01-13-2019 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2742289)
An acquisition would certainly fulfill the growth requirements for the next few years depending on how many of their deliveries were negotiated in the deal. Whether NK would pay Indigo a premium for those slots is an unknown. I also don't know the tolerance for 4 different engine types but that'd be a minor issue, aside from the poorer CFM fuel burn, with manuals and maintenance. Boeing has presented a 3/2 aircraft full fleet swap plan with simulator and MX support. I don't want F9 or antique airplanes but who knows what's coming our way. Hopefully Ted's welcome email is a tad longer than Bob's was.

Okay no I was talking about the updated logo on the aircraft and you said "change it all over again" so that's what I was referring to. Not all that stuff you were talking about.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 01-13-2019 08:25 PM

I bet uniforms aren’t one of the top 50 things execs GAF about when considering mergers or acquisitions. They’d probably put us in a pair of chinos and a polo anyway, so how much could that possibly cost?

dfwflyboy 01-13-2019 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Macjet (Post 2742289)
An acquisition would certainly fulfill the growth requirements for the next few years depending on how many of their deliveries were negotiated in the deal. Whether NK would pay Indigo a premium for those slots is an unknown. I also don't know the tolerance for 4 different engine types but that'd be a minor issue, aside from the poorer CFM fuel burn, with manuals and maintenance. Boeing has presented a 3/2 aircraft full fleet swap plan with simulator and MX support. I don't want F9 or antique airplanes but who knows what's coming our way. Hopefully Ted's welcome email is a tad longer than Bob's was.

Booooo no Boeing. You ever been in the cockpit? Horribly uncomfortable. Trust me. You want to keep Airbus lol


And Teds welcome email? What welcome. He’s already taken over. Just another absentee CEO. You won’t hear much from him. Behind the scenes so far. My last airline, We had a damn good CEO. Weekly updates. Videos. He was very hands on and vocal. You won’t see that here since Baldanza


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