Well that depends on how cheap you can get them. If I have to fly the A220 for 20 years to break even on the gas then I’d say it was worth it. That doesn’t even include the cost of adding another fleet type and all the associated expenses with it.

 

Comes down to fuel. The red eye connection between hubs might sell low, but necessary to connect onward passengers to international flights etc.

100 on a fuel miser A220 > 100 on a 757

 

I wonder if they have an A319NEO

 

Google 319NEO? Answer yes, zero orders from airlines.

 

I had heard from management during a crew news session the 321 costs $5m more than a 319.

So for $5m you get like 50% more seats for a what, 15% increase in fuel?

The only reason Delta and JetBlue bought the CSeries is because they paid 70% off list @ $25m a copy.

 

Yeah, I guess the 20% improved efficiency, the ability to fly either short hops or 3,000 miles on longer/thinner routes profitably and the vastly improved passenger ergonomics (large bins, big windows providing more light and preferred 2x3 seating) meant nothing... Sure, price is a factor, but Delta won’t negotiate if it can’t get a great deal and the manufacturers know it. Delta buys in bulk and it will take risk with launch orders (Delta also wants to be the launch order for the proposed 797).

Delta, JB, Air Canada and David Neeleman (new airline start-up Moxy) ordered the A220/CSeries because it is an innovative game changer that can squeeze profits out of competitive or new routes. So, I take it you didn’t read this article that provides some great insight:

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/analysis-airbus-a220-is-killing-it-at-delta/

 

Air France is also rumoured to place a big 70 plane order for the A220.

 

I guess, efficiency or not, I just don't see us ordering 100 planes that are that small, even the 300 series. It does look like a great replacement for the 319 but probably not worth the cost of another fleet type? And I'm kind of thinking since the airplane is gaining popularity the deals are not as good as they used to be.

Guess we'll know in Aug or Sept.. Whatever they order it'll be better than a merger or ordering nothing.

 

You guys are spinning your wheels arguing about the A220. It’s going to be a 737max order. The writing is on the wall

 

After the MAX debacle, you could argue having a single fleet type could be risky going forward. A lot of single-fleet airlines (including SWA) are at least reconsidering that strategy. If new fleet types are ultra-efficient, they could potentially pay for themselves in terms of new-fleet entry costs.

Do you want to know why JB chose the A220? This article offers a good explanation (including the all-important decision factors):

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...e-a220-450121/

It's a pretty insightful article. Having a dual fleet can be a good thing depending upon the routes flown. No doubt cost is a factor, but JB was looking at the A220 more strategically as the article describes.