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07-30-2019 | 11:36 AM

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Judge Smails

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Originally Posted by LandGreen

You guys are spinning your wheels arguing about the A220. It’s going to be a 737max order. The writing is on the wall

Why would they order a plane that's built on an ancient foundation, with a stigma that will stick with it forever, and does the same exact job as what we have now...with far less comfort? Yeah...cost, but Boeing with its arrogance isn't gonna give these things away, even after all the bull$h1t.

I just don't see it happening. An entirely new type to do the same exact job as a NEO. The A220 on the other hand opens new doors.

07-30-2019 | 12:07 PM

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American does hub to hub LAX-JFK with a 108 seat 321.

07-30-2019 | 12:07 PM

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You know for a fact they (Boeing) aren’t going to offer an awesome deal to spirit?

07-30-2019 | 12:16 PM

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If there’s a US carrier that could do a big MAX order, it’s Spirit. You think your average Spirit customer knows what plane they’re on? They’re there because it’s cheap cheap cheap. Which is fine.

07-30-2019 | 01:20 PM

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You know for a fact they (Boeing) aren’t going to offer an awesome deal to spirit?

Boeing just sold 200 737-MAX airplanes to IAG (British Airways/Iberia/Aer Lingus/Vueling/Level parent company) to the surprise of everyone at the Paris Air Show. So, I assume Boeing will be offering Spirit an awesome deal at some point! Boeing would love to displace Airbus at Spirit, and 130 of the 200 MAX airplanes for IAG will be used to replace the entire 130-airplane Airbus fleet of Vueling (a Spanish/Italian LCC). Boeing could offer Spirit the full spectrum of MAX airplanes - the 7,8,9 and 10. SWA already has orders for the 737-7 MAX at the lower end of seating capacity.

So, it is possible at the right price!

07-30-2019 | 01:40 PM

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I'm sure Boeing has made its offer at this point. If we were going to switch fleets, this company would not be scouring the market for A320 lease returns like it is right now.

07-30-2019 | 01:48 PM

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Not sure of the time frame or details involved but why wouldn’t Spirit grab all those Airbuses that are going to be replaced by the max order IAG made?

07-30-2019 | 01:51 PM

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Boeing just sold 200 737-MAX airplanes to IAG (British Airways/Iberia/Aer Lingus/Vueling/Level parent company) to the surprise of everyone at the Paris Air Show. So, I assume Boeing will be offering Spirit an awesome deal at some point! Boeing would love to displace Airbus at Spirit, and 130 of the 200 MAX airplanes for IAG will be used to replace the entire 130-airplane Airbus fleet of Vueling (a Spanish/Italian LCC). Boeing could offer Spirit the full spectrum of MAX airplanes - the 7,8,9 and 10. SWA already has orders for the 737-7 MAX at the lower end of seating capacity.

The way I read that is 130 Airbii might be on the market soon. Which leads us to...

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If we were going to switch fleets, this company would not be scouring the market for A320 lease returns like it is right now.

07-30-2019 | 04:03 PM

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The way I read that is 130 Airbii might be on the market soon. Which leads us to...

I agree it is plausible...

07-30-2019 | 06:35 PM

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I'm sure Boeing has made its offer at this point. If we were going to switch fleets, this company would not be scouring the market for A320 lease returns like it is right now.

This makes a lot of sense. Why would we be gleaning A320s from here and there and everywhere if we were going to go dual fleet? Presumably we would be going dual fleet because of a massive cost incentive per airframe so it would be more cost effective to use that cash to buy more of cheap airframe X.