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Old 09-08-2019 | 11:28 AM
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If it makes dollars and sense, yes, yes they would.
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Old 09-08-2019 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by skytrekker
So the airline that puts the freeze on anybody growing in ATL, that also allegedly stopped SW from building a terminal on the south cargo ramp, is going to do a 100 plus aircraft deal with NK? OK.
I find the claim dubious, but WTH has gate space got to do with anything? It’s for 100 airframes, and not 100 gates. NK has four gates in ATL. I suspect they can find other places to run their new Airbii of space isn’t available in ATL. Big world out there not located in Georgia.
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Old 09-08-2019 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skytrekker
So the airline that puts the freeze on anybody growing in ATL, that also allegedly stopped SW from building a terminal on the south cargo ramp, is going to do a 100 plus aircraft deal with NK? OK.
You sure give Delta a lot of power. Do a little research and you will find gates are not the issue. ATL airport moves more aircraft than any other airport with 5 or more runways. What Atlanta needs for growth is another runway to go with a additional gates already planned. Delta by the way pushed for a terminal G which was rejected by the airport authority as too expensive. Instead existing terminals are being extended. Delta has also offered to demolish their current headquarters and all the training facilities to get a sixth runway built in ATL. Does not sound like they are trying to restrict capacity!
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Old 09-08-2019 | 02:49 PM
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One bus two buses. For the love of God stop saying airbii
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Old 09-08-2019 | 03:25 PM
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One bus two buses. For the love of God stop saying airbii
Oh good grief. You’ll live.
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Old 09-08-2019 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You sure give Delta a lot of power. Do a little research and you will find gates are not the issue. ATL airport moves more aircraft than any other airport with 5 or more runways. What Atlanta needs for growth is another runway to go with a additional gates already planned. Delta by the way pushed for a terminal G which was rejected by the airport authority as too expensive. Instead existing terminals are being extended. Delta has also offered to demolish their current headquarters and all the training facilities to get a sixth runway built in ATL. Does not sound like they are trying to restrict capacity!
He should've phrased it as: the airline that puts a freeze to any ATL growth that ISN'T Delta...
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Old 09-08-2019 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
You sure give Delta a lot of power. Do a little research and you will find gates are not the issue. ATL airport moves more aircraft than any other airport with 5 or more runways. What Atlanta needs for growth is another runway to go with a additional gates already planned. Delta by the way pushed for a terminal G which was rejected by the airport authority as too expensive. Instead existing terminals are being extended. Delta has also offered to demolish their current headquarters and all the training facilities to get a sixth runway built in ATL. Does not sound like they are trying to restrict capacity!
I wish LAX would get their ess together too. During rush hour, it takes vehicles 50 minutes to go from the entrance to the exit.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
I wish LAX would get their ess together too. During rush hour, it takes vehicles 50 minutes to go from the entrance to the exit.
This is an Uber/Lyft saturation problem. It now often takes longer to get through the airport to the gates than it does to drive from LGB-LAX.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 04:35 AM
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No clue why we stay in LGB. Way better options closer to the airport. Hermosa, Manhattan,Redondo and many more.
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Old 09-09-2019 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ropestart
No clue why we stay in LGB. Way better options closer to the airport. Hermosa, Manhattan,Redondo and many more.
No one else wants our business for what Spirit is willing to pay to satisfy our contract requirements. Also, other airlines stay there so they satisfy past arbitration. I hate the drive to Long Beach more than anyone but I do like the Westin.

I think we’ve seen a steady decline in hotels since this contract was signed. I don’t mind being near the airport and am a fan of the new hour requirements for long vs short. The problem is that there are loopholes such as Boston where the long is just as close as the short and the short is garbage.

Our language is far too weak for what’s satisfactory and when we had more “long” layovers the hotels available usually exceeded the requirements. Now that we have a lot more “short” layovers it brings in a lot more crummy hotels that meet our contract and since spirit bids as low as it can we end up at these. Hotel quality should be a priority in the next round or mid cycle if we can. To me long or short shouldn’t matter and we should be at a four or five star hotel in either situation. That’s not happening today.

Keep bringing shortcomings of hotels to the appropriate people. We can’t get a change if folks just accept the garbage they give us.
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